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Almondine War · 10-04-2005, 10:44 PM

Hey folks.

I'm looking for games that are -devoted- to roleplaying. I really prefer levelless MUDs with no exp systems (not even RP EXP, because I havn't seen a system yet that works as it should).

I have tried ArmageddonMUD, I like it, but I'm looking for something above and beyond.

New or unusual muds welcome.

prof1515 · 10-05-2005, 06:26 AM

Presently, there are but two other functioning RPIs that I'm aware of:

Harshlands
Shadows of Isildur

There have been others but last I heard they were all closed down (or at least when I tried to access them their game and/or website was no longer functioning). There are a few others in development but none are close to opening, including my own.

Take care,

Jason

WarHound · 10-05-2005, 01:06 PM

I'll throw my hat in with prof, here. Armageddon, Harshlands, and SoI are pretty much the only mandatory RP muds worth mentioning.

And, in the world of RPI's, you don't get 'above and beyond' Armageddon. It's the final word in kicking ass.

-WP

Fifi · 10-05-2005, 01:23 PM

These three muds form the niche genre of RPI's. An RPI, not only enforces RP, they all impose permanent death, and expect the players to constantly interact with the world realistically, while the world treats them the same way.They have no global channels, no who lists, and all require character applications to ensure that the game world is preserved, from the moment a new character enters the world. At this point SOI, Armageddon, and Harshlands are the only games in town.

Role-play Intensive or enforced muds also exist, but are not RPI's. It's a weird semantic thing. This is a larger pool. Your best bet is to read reviews, and do searches based on the criteria outlined.

I guess, what I'm saying is you might want to further define whether you're looking for an RPI or an RP enforced game.

Almondine War · 10-06-2005, 01:05 AM

Basically, looking for an -excellent- environment.

I'm sick of getting on self-proclaimed RP MUDs where the only RP going on is between very small groups of people, and only on weekends.

I also have no interest in putting forth two-four hours of work in a character concept that won't work in a game, NOT because of theme, but because other players are not willing the cooperate.

Example: If I am playing a poor common tailor, people should NOT expect me to give out free work, and I do NOT expect people to OOCly tell me to go HUNTING or some other combat-related path just so I can get starting money for said tailor.

Heh, I'm also a realism-monger, so the more realistic the game is, the better. This is mainly the reason I hate exp, because it makes a game choppy and forces me to do repetitive things that my char would not normally do. I don't like RP EXP because usually this requires an admin audience (which could be rare or unnessary), peer review (difficult in games with channels, twinks, and people who talk over AIM or YIM to cheat...you find that if you play shiftier characters, you -never- get exp)_, or automatically accumulated, which simply just doesn't work.

I don't like knowing people's names when I meet them.

I demand perma-death.

Stock is abhorred.

Etc. Etc.

For the record, I've been working on my own little 'ideal' MUD for a while, but its more for my own enjoyment and education than anyone else's.

Fifi · 10-06-2005, 07:09 AM

As far as I know, the only muds utilizing full perma-death are Armageddon, SoI and Harshlands. They all require a char app. So, it's a trade off. Since you don't like Armageddon, I guess I'd recommend SOI. If you find that's not for you, there's Harshlands.

Fifi · 10-06-2005, 07:17 AM

I really think perma-death should be a searchable field.

Almondine War · 10-06-2005, 01:39 PM

I second that.

I actually like Accursed Lands (not really RPI, but close) and Armageddon. I'm just looking for something new.

HaiWolfe · 10-06-2005, 02:05 PM

In addition to the recommendations made above, you might also try out one of these two MUDs:

Shadow Siege - I haven't played there personally, but they are a levelless and classless roleplaying MUD, and from the looks of their website, have a lot of in-depth documentation and thematic content. They don't have permadeath, however (though according to their FAQ, death is no easy experience and it's possible to die for good under the right circumstances).

Age of Reptiles - Also not strictly an RPI, as leveling is involved, but it is classless and features permadeath. Very unique theme in which players roleplay as members of rival deinonychus packs in prehistoric Pangaea. Its playerbase is still small, but the quality of roleplay I've seen is good and I'd say this MUD fits both the new and unusual categories you described. <g>

Euphorbia · 10-06-2005, 02:34 PM

You should perhaps try Dartmud. It's leveless. There is permadeath. The level of 'realism' is high, in terms of interacting with the world.

Ilkidarios · 10-06-2005, 05:35 PM

I'd go with SoI, solid LotR game with some cool stuff in it. Unfortunately, like the other three role-play strict games, it takes a little getting used to.

kalaazar · 10-06-2005, 07:24 PM

Towers of Jadri!
It's leveless, classless, the theme is origonal, and it has permanent death.

Towers of Jadri

Now, be aware, Jadri has a global OOC channel. Which I think takes it out of the RPI running, but the roleplay standard is still quite high. And considering Jadri isn't the easiest to learn the global channel can be quite helpful.

Paynifier · 10-21-2005, 05:22 PM

If you haven't tried The Inquisition: http://www.theinquisition.org/ you aught look at that as well.

It is leveless, perma-death, and currently looking for players. Especially players who want to play the many non-combatant roles in the world (which is what it sounds like you want to play): clergy, inquisitors, barristers, criminal investigators, thieves, merchants, doctors, nobility, secret agents, mages, bards, gamblers and drunks (and any combination of those).

The game, in brief, plays out more like one of those dinner murder mystery games than a MUD. All the characters interact with one another as they go about their daily business and try to figure out which ones are the mage characters, and get them burned at the stake, without getting sent there themselves or offed by the mage (perma death). The world is low fantasy, taking much from medieval or Renaissance cultures. Magic is real, though, so there really are witches.

If you like mysteries, you'll probably like this game.

http://www.theinquisition.org/

Gaare · 10-22-2005, 03:07 PM

Unfortunately if you like Armageddon, there is little else you may enjoy. There are excellent hack& Slash muds, but well.. I myself prefer some virutual mmorpgs rather then those.

I do agree SOI worth a try. They need a few years for more development, but there is some devoted RPers. Harshlands is maybe the only other active mud then SoI and Armageddon in which have some RPers spend some time. Other then that.. Well, good luck.

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10-04-2005, 10:44 PM	#1
Almondine War Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Louisiana, United States Posts: 33	Hey folks. I'm looking for games that are -devoted- to roleplaying. I really prefer levelless MUDs with no exp systems (not even RP EXP, because I havn't seen a system yet that works as it should). I have tried ArmageddonMUD, I like it, but I'm looking for something above and beyond. New or unusual muds welcome.

10-05-2005, 06:26 AM	#2
prof1515 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 493	Presently, there are but two other functioning RPIs that I'm aware of: Harshlands Shadows of Isildur There have been others but last I heard they were all closed down (or at least when I tried to access them their game and/or website was no longer functioning). There are a few others in development but none are close to opening, including my own. Take care, Jason

10-05-2005, 01:06 PM	#3
WarHound Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Locked in a place where no one goes... Posts: 170	I'll throw my hat in with prof, here. Armageddon, Harshlands, and SoI are pretty much the only mandatory RP muds worth mentioning. And, in the world of RPI's, you don't get 'above and beyond' Armageddon. It's the final word in kicking ass. -WP

10-05-2005, 01:23 PM	#4
Fifi Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 170	These three muds form the niche genre of RPI's. An RPI, not only enforces RP, they all impose permanent death, and expect the players to constantly interact with the world realistically, while the world treats them the same way.They have no global channels, no who lists, and all require character applications to ensure that the game world is preserved, from the moment a new character enters the world. At this point SOI, Armageddon, and Harshlands are the only games in town. Role-play Intensive or enforced muds also exist, but are not RPI's. It's a weird semantic thing. This is a larger pool. Your best bet is to read reviews, and do searches based on the criteria outlined. I guess, what I'm saying is you might want to further define whether you're looking for an RPI or an RP enforced game.

10-06-2005, 01:05 AM	#5
Almondine War Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Louisiana, United States Posts: 33	Basically, looking for an -excellent- environment. I'm sick of getting on self-proclaimed RP MUDs where the only RP going on is between very small groups of people, and only on weekends. I also have no interest in putting forth two-four hours of work in a character concept that won't work in a game, NOT because of theme, but because other players are not willing the cooperate. Example: If I am playing a poor common tailor, people should NOT expect me to give out free work, and I do NOT expect people to OOCly tell me to go HUNTING or some other combat-related path just so I can get starting money for said tailor. Heh, I'm also a realism-monger, so the more realistic the game is, the better. This is mainly the reason I hate exp, because it makes a game choppy and forces me to do repetitive things that my char would not normally do. I don't like RP EXP because usually this requires an admin audience (which could be rare or unnessary), peer review (difficult in games with channels, twinks, and people who talk over AIM or YIM to cheat...you find that if you play shiftier characters, you -never- get exp)_, or automatically accumulated, which simply just doesn't work. I don't like knowing people's names when I meet them. I demand perma-death. Stock is abhorred. Etc. Etc. For the record, I've been working on my own little 'ideal' MUD for a while, but its more for my own enjoyment and education than anyone else's.

10-06-2005, 07:09 AM	#6
Fifi Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 170	As far as I know, the only muds utilizing full perma-death are Armageddon, SoI and Harshlands. They all require a char app. So, it's a trade off. Since you don't like Armageddon, I guess I'd recommend SOI. If you find that's not for you, there's Harshlands.

10-06-2005, 07:17 AM	#7
Fifi Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 170	I really think perma-death should be a searchable field.

10-06-2005, 01:39 PM	#8
Almondine War Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Louisiana, United States Posts: 33	I second that. I actually like Accursed Lands (not really RPI, but close) and Armageddon. I'm just looking for something new.

10-06-2005, 02:05 PM	#9
HaiWolfe New Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14	In addition to the recommendations made above, you might also try out one of these two MUDs: Shadow Siege - I haven't played there personally, but they are a levelless and classless roleplaying MUD, and from the looks of their website, have a lot of in-depth documentation and thematic content. They don't have permadeath, however (though according to their FAQ, death is no easy experience and it's possible to die for good under the right circumstances). Age of Reptiles - Also not strictly an RPI, as leveling is involved, but it is classless and features permadeath. Very unique theme in which players roleplay as members of rival deinonychus packs in prehistoric Pangaea. Its playerbase is still small, but the quality of roleplay I've seen is good and I'd say this MUD fits both the new and unusual categories you described. <g>

10-06-2005, 02:34 PM	#10
Euphorbia New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3	You should perhaps try Dartmud. It's leveless. There is permadeath. The level of 'realism' is high, in terms of interacting with the world.

10-06-2005, 05:35 PM	#11
Ilkidarios Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Name: Lamont Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 436	I'd go with SoI, solid LotR game with some cool stuff in it. Unfortunately, like the other three role-play strict games, it takes a little getting used to.

10-06-2005, 07:24 PM	#12
kalaazar New Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 21	Towers of Jadri! It's leveless, classless, the theme is origonal, and it has permanent death. Towers of Jadri Now, be aware, Jadri has a global OOC channel. Which I think takes it out of the RPI running, but the roleplay standard is still quite high. And considering Jadri isn't the easiest to learn the global channel can be quite helpful.

10-21-2005, 05:22 PM	#13
Paynifier New Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3	If you haven't tried The Inquisition: http://www.theinquisition.org/ you aught look at that as well. It is leveless, perma-death, and currently looking for players. Especially players who want to play the many non-combatant roles in the world (which is what it sounds like you want to play): clergy, inquisitors, barristers, criminal investigators, thieves, merchants, doctors, nobility, secret agents, mages, bards, gamblers and drunks (and any combination of those). The game, in brief, plays out more like one of those dinner murder mystery games than a MUD. All the characters interact with one another as they go about their daily business and try to figure out which ones are the mage characters, and get them burned at the stake, without getting sent there themselves or offed by the mage (perma death). The world is low fantasy, taking much from medieval or Renaissance cultures. Magic is real, though, so there really are witches. If you like mysteries, you'll probably like this game. http://www.theinquisition.org/

10-22-2005, 03:07 PM	#14
Gaare New Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11	Unfortunately if you like Armageddon, there is little else you may enjoy. There are excellent hack& Slash muds, but well.. I myself prefer some virutual mmorpgs rather then those. I do agree SOI worth a try. They need a few years for more development, but there is some devoted RPers. Harshlands is maybe the only other active mud then SoI and Armageddon in which have some RPers spend some time. Other then that.. Well, good luck.

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