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Old 08-12-2011, 09:07 PM   #91
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Re: Let's try this again...RP MUD

Darren... just... lol. Sometimes you say things, bro, and I don't even know where to start correcting you.

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Yes, well while he wants Political Roleplay, the bulk of his wishlist would clearly eliminate Marrach without any effort at all--especially the parts concerning Applications, Guilds, Tasks for Classes (apparently he hates writing lengthy papers), Casual Enviroment to play, both reasons on Helpful Players and not having Multipul races.
Since this is the only thing you've posted in 3 pages of this thread now that has anything to do with this discussion I suppose I'll reply to this.

And you're right, actually (see, I knew you could do it sooner or later). Marrach is, in numerous ways, precisely the type of MUD the OP is not looking for, and surprisingly for a number of the reasons you posted.

That said, it's amusing that you simultaneously advise against CM while recommending ICO when ICO is essentially the exact same genre of MUD (a political drama) owned by the same company, only set in an anthromorphic renaissance instead of a high fantasy medieval setting. I'll lend you some credibility that ICO is slightly more system based than CM, having a lot more free reign on crafting systems and so on, but it's still a roleplay-enforced opera highly centered around politics between guilds and noble houses (all things the OP indicated he wanted not to deal with). The same reasons why I would recommend against CM are why I would recommend against ICO, not that either of them are bad games, they're just not what the OP has asked for.


The rest of your posts not only have absolutely nothing to do with this thread (it's like there's an echo in here) but are so far from being accurate I wouldn't even know where to begin correcting you even if they were. Please keep your comments related to MUDs in general and their relation to the criteria the OP listed as opposed to your own unrelated personal gripes and experiences and how you think you were treated unfairly.
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Old 08-13-2011, 08:05 AM   #92
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I have ADHD too. Does that mean I am a special snowflake whose character in a MUD cannot be punished when he misbehaves, or not face any consequences when he makes mistakes? Does that mean I am the only player with ADHD who should get these in-character benefits for my character, but any other character from players with the same condition as I can't?

Also, sorry to burst your bubble Darren, but if Skotos were to disappear tomorrow, so would IronClaw Online. Just because the tabletop game is owned by Sanguine Productions does not mean they would be interested into moving the Skotos version to their own servers and operate it. Just because a company sells a license to another company to build and operate a game based on their product does not mean they want anything to do with it.

I was wondering when you'd return. It just...was a feeling.

And to burst your bubble as well, Squire Ambra's player also suffered from ADHD, which caused her to loose concentration and be forgetful--which came through as she played her character. She too recieved benifits from playing in character (she was one more step away from becomming a knight) but largely the Game was a source of enjoyment in her hardscrabble exsistance. She didn't, and wouldn't, use it as a crutch at all. But in the end it didtn't matter, as she was constantly being ground down by the other players. One very popular player, who helped in this, put it quite bluntly to me, "Oh, its just Ambra" then went on to espress her OOC opinion that equated Ambra to Elmer the Dog .

Some of us, including myself, did help her which is why she continued to play. But in the end the meanness finally got too much for Ambra, and she left.

I have it logged, as with many other incidents, and have willingly given copies of these logs to persons associated with Nancy and myself in Second life--largely from what she's told them. And they agree with what we've told them about Marrach, as many of them also MUD.
Maybe you'd want to talk to her about it. You'll be the first from there to actually speak to her over E-Mail, as may have promised but just can't spare five lousy minutes to do so.

Another thing is that the Ironclaw MUD is popular. Why would they not be interested in moving it to their own servers, or someone elses especially as you say if "Skotos were to dissappear tomarrow", what would prevent Sanguine from setting up their own server and running it? It could be run from something as simple as an average Computer case with a couple of Terabyte drives. Programmers can be hired, or found through connections in the Gamer Community.
Yes, it can be done quite easily--and cheaply.

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Old 08-13-2011, 08:20 AM   #93
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Darren... just... lol. Sometimes you say things, bro, and I don't even know where to start correcting you.



Since this is the only thing you've posted in 3 pages of this thread now that has anything to do with this discussion I suppose I'll reply to this.

And you're right, actually (see, I knew you could do it sooner or later). Marrach is, in numerous ways, precisely the type of MUD the OP is not looking for, and surprisingly for a number of the reasons you posted.

That said, it's amusing that you simultaneously advise against CM while recommending ICO when ICO is essentially the exact same genre of MUD (a political drama) owned by the same company, only set in an anthromorphic renaissance instead of a high fantasy medieval setting. I'll lend you some credibility that ICO is slightly more system based than CM, having a lot more free reign on crafting systems and so on, but it's still a roleplay-enforced opera highly centered around politics between guilds and noble houses (all things the OP indicated he wanted not to deal with). The same reasons why I would recommend against CM are why I would recommend against ICO, not that either of them are bad games, they're just not what the OP has asked for.


The rest of your posts not only have absolutely nothing to do with this thread (it's like there's an echo in here) but are so far from being accurate I wouldn't even know where to begin correcting you even if they were. Please keep your comments related to MUDs in general and their relation to the criteria the OP listed as opposed to your own unrelated personal gripes and experiences and how you think you were treated unfairly.
Actually ICO is much, much better than Marrach due to the amount of opertunities there for a character to pursue, coupled with the need to 'work' to earn the money for everything rather than have it given to you--which is an excellant Roleplaying opertunity. And the fact that many of the players in ICO left Marrach for simular reasons to mine, which is why they and the Staff strive dilligently to make ICO not just another Marrach clone in those reguards.

As for what I say here, as long as it doesn't break the rules reguarding postings here (which I do review constantly) I will say what I want, even if it's against Marrach. And you, and your allies, have the same right to be the opposite with your views.

I was treated unfairly there, as was Nancy and others, largely because of the habit of other players to 'jump on' us if we made a mistake. But then, the Game, any game for that matter, is what its players make of it.
But jumping on players for making even the most minor mistakes, be it intentional or not, tends to make them leave quite embittered. And while they may not be a vocial as I am about the place, they do have their friends and move with in their circles--sharing their personal exsperiences on the games they've played...

And if they refuse your offer to play there, please don't be surprised if they refuse it. Just don't ask why-you wont like the answer.


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Old 08-13-2011, 07:14 PM   #94
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Actually ICO is much, much better than Marrach due to...
Better and worse have nothing to do with this thread. Once again you fail to comprehend the utterly simple concept that this thread is not about CM and why you dislike it. You're the only person I've met in my life stupid enough to consistently reply to an observation of "this is irrelevant" with more claims backing up the argument we just established was irrelevant anyway.

Nowhere did I say any game was better or worse than any other game. Neither of the games meet the criteria the OP indicated so neither of them are recommended for the OP to play regardless of which game you think is better. What part of this terribly mundane logic is so confusing to you that a week later you're still incapable of grasping it?

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As for what I say here, as long as it doesn't break the rules reguarding postings here (which I do review constantly) I will say what I want, even if it's against Marrach. And you, and your allies, have the same right to be the opposite with your views.
You can speak against Marrach all you like, I couldn't care less to be honest. In fact, by all means please make a thread titled, "Why Darren hates Castle Marrach" so that you can toss every single one of your 112 meaningless posts in that thread where at last it might actually be relevant to the topic at hand for the first time in your life. My point has been, from the moment you started crying this river nobody cares about, that it has nothing to do with this thread and no one cares.

If you "review the rules of the forum constantly" as you just claimed then please review the part where it says posts should remain on topic to the thread. Your fictional sob stories about how the world is out to get you have nothing to do with this thread or any of the other threads you've posted them in.

For the love of god Darren trying to debate something with you is like trying to discuss physics with someone who can't comprehend grade school level math. I can't even get to the actual debate part because you simply can't even understand what's actually being discussed and why nothing you're saying matters even if it were true. If I didn't know from years of experience that you lacked the mental capacity for it, I'd think you were deliberately acting a complete dolt as some form of remarkably impressive trolling routine.

Not that there is much to salvage of the OP anymore, but if following this very clear explanation of why your arguments are utterly inconsequential to anything related to this thread you can't process this simplest understanding I'm simply resolved to reporting your irrelevant posts so that the rest of us can get on with discussing the topics these forums were actually intended for.
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Old 08-13-2011, 08:00 PM   #95
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Better and worse have nothing to do with this thread. Once again you fail to comprehend the utterly simple concept that this thread is not about CM and why you dislike it. You're the only person I've met in my life stupid enough to consistently reply to an observation of "this is irrelevant" with more claims backing up the argument we just established was irrelevant anyway.

Nowhere did I say any game was better or worse than any other game. Neither of the games meet the criteria the OP indicated so neither of them are recommended for the OP to play regardless of which game you think is better. What part of this terribly mundane logic is so confusing to you that a week later you're still incapable of grasping it?



You can speak against Marrach all you like, I couldn't care less to be honest. In fact, by all means please make a thread titled, "Why Darren hates Castle Marrach" so that you can toss every single one of your 112 meaningless posts in that thread where at last it might actually be relevant to the topic at hand for the first time in your life. My point has been, from the moment you started crying this river nobody cares about, that it has nothing to do with this thread and no one cares.

If you "review the rules of the forum constantly" as you just claimed then please review the part where it says posts should remain on topic to the thread. Your fictional sob stories about how the world is out to get you have nothing to do with this thread or any of the other threads you've posted them in.

For the love of god Darren trying to debate something with you is like trying to discuss physics with someone who can't comprehend grade school level math. I can't even get to the actual debate part because you simply can't even understand what's actually being discussed and why nothing you're saying matters even if it were true. If I didn't know from years of experience that you lacked the mental capacity for it, I'd think you were deliberately acting a complete dolt as some form of remarkably impressive trolling routine.

Not that there is much to salvage of the OP anymore, but if following this very clear explanation of why your arguments are utterly inconsequential to anything related to this thread you can't process this simplest understanding I'm simply resolved to reporting your irrelevant posts so that the rest of us can get on with discussing the topics these forums were actually intended for.
Very well
I was meerly puting in my opinions, without becoming insulting towards those who post, nor trying to dominate it in anyway.

I'm sorry that you were so very offended by my behavior, but you your self did nothing to convince me that I was otherwise wrong in my beliefs.

You have your opinions, and I have mine on this matter

So with that, I suggest that this thread be closed and done with.


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