[Dubthach]

Originally Posted by (Alastair @ April 24 2002,5:44 pm) Originally Posted by Nuking long time players with no explanation is going to (rightly) **** other players off. Rightly? Why? Because they're long time players? Meaning they have a "right" to special treatment? If long-term players are treated any differently than newbies, I can see that rightly ****ing people off.

Because we're not talking about a clear violation of policy.  We're talking about players saying something that bugged the Admin.  So yeah, I think respect and loyalty for past contribution should weigh into the judgement call of whether to nuke the player or not.  There's a big difference between a complete newbie walking onto your mud and saying something somewhat objectionable, and a long time player that has contributed to the game saying something objectionable.  As I said before, a lot of the longterm success of muds is determined by the actions of its players, and to ignore their contribution is insulting.

Don't try to muddy the water with a "there has to be one rule for everyone" bit.  There was no rule in this case.  It was a judgement call.

Dub.

[Alastair]

Well, first off, we don't know all the sides to the story, so my statements are quite logically in the theoretical realm.

Second, I'm not muddying the waters or anything. Perhaps you should try and not see any single post here as a global player vs. imm conflict or conspiracy.

[Darrik]

First point, Your 'theoretical examples' that could spawn off this action are all FAR different than the case stated here.  You don't assume people who say they have been drinking are underage, you assume they are overage. For that matter, random comments such as those could be 1) a lie to sound cool ( Yes, this happens ) and 2) stating these things over a communications base can not be gathered as a legal risk to the administrator. This is extremely different than organizing a system to distribute/sell/(make?) drugs, as the administrators ARE possibly at risk legally if these plans succeed ( or don't, I guess, if they are caught ).  

Secondly, as far as the nuke goes, I believe it was pointed out that they were warned before being nuked?  If they were not, then I would understand your point that long-time players should be given a warning... but so should newbies, as they are new to the mud and the administrator.  If they were warned, then I do not believe long-term players should be given any more breaks.

Thanks for your time,

Darrik Vequir