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Persnickity · 08-13-2006, 12:16 AM

I want to revamp my website. I'm not that great at html, I'd consider myself between beginner and intermediate.

What are some possible alternatives to frames? I don't want to use tables on every page as that would get horribly tedious to update when there are changes to the website. Frames aren't accepted by all browsers. What choices do I have at this point that I would be able to do myself?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Baram · 08-13-2006, 12:34 AM

Grab a book on asp or php and see if you understand it. Mainly you want the includes feature. Using includes you can include your sidebar or whatever it is you are currently using frames, onto all your webpages(use tables so it looks nice) then if you ever need to change it you just change the include file and your whole site changes.

the_logos · 08-13-2006, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by (Persnickity @ Aug. 13 2006,01:16)

I want to revamp my website. I'm not that great at html, I'd consider myself between beginner and intermediate.

What are some possible alternatives to frames? I don't want to use tables on every page as that would get horribly tedious to update when there are changes to the website. Frames aren't accepted by all browsers. What choices do I have at this point that I would be able to do myself?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Dreamweaver has a template feature that allows you to update all the templated portions of a website (defined arbitrarily by the developer) automatically.

--matt

Keldar · 08-13-2006, 06:11 AM

By the looks of your hosting company, your best bet would be to learn PHP. Granted that you are allowed to use it with whatever account you have there.

It shouldn't take much learning - just enough to know how to include one template into another and grab entries from a database. But it'll make your life so much easier, compared to trying to edit all the pages by hand.

Crystal · 08-13-2006, 05:51 PM

You don't really need a knowledge of php in order to use simple includes. If you're able to cut up your page in a header, body, and footer, you can save your header and footer as something like, header.inc and footer.inc, and then place the includes for them at the top and bottom of your page (saved as .php) you should be fine.

[code] <? include('footer.inc'); ?>[/quote]

I'd suggest reading up on some CSS to start. php is good to know, but you're not going to get anywhere as fast as with CSS. Look up how to use the float function and you can replace almost every use of tables (not all, but close

).

08-13-2006, 12:16 AM	#1
Persnickity New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: USA Posts: 7	I want to revamp my website. I'm not that great at html, I'd consider myself between beginner and intermediate. What are some possible alternatives to frames? I don't want to use tables on every page as that would get horribly tedious to update when there are changes to the website. Frames aren't accepted by all browsers. What choices do I have at this point that I would be able to do myself? Any help is greatly appreciated.

08-13-2006, 12:34 AM	#2
Baram Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seoul Posts: 192	Grab a book on asp or php and see if you understand it. Mainly you want the includes feature. Using includes you can include your sidebar or whatever it is you are currently using frames, onto all your webpages(use tables so it looks nice) then if you ever need to change it you just change the include file and your whole site changes.

08-13-2006, 06:11 AM	#4
Keldar New Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 13	By the looks of your hosting company, your best bet would be to learn PHP. Granted that you are allowed to use it with whatever account you have there. It shouldn't take much learning - just enough to know how to include one template into another and grab entries from a database. But it'll make your life so much easier, compared to trying to edit all the pages by hand.

08-13-2006, 05:51 PM	#5
Crystal Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 114	You don't really need a knowledge of php in order to use simple includes. If you're able to cut up your page in a header, body, and footer, you can save your header and footer as something like, header.inc and footer.inc, and then place the includes for them at the top and bottom of your page (saved as .php) you should be fine. [code] <? include('footer.inc'); ?>[/quote] I'd suggest reading up on some CSS to start. php is good to know, but you're not going to get anywhere as fast as with CSS. Look up how to use the float function and you can replace almost every use of tables (not all, but close ).

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