[Newworlds]

I would like to thank you Jazuela. Your post is very candid. Because it is similar to a review of a game and because the reviews are virtually shut down I will not respond to the comments other than to say the staff at NW appreciates feedback in whatever form.

[newbie]

Originally Posted by Jazuela I didn't even see the "RP intensive" as in, not necessarily an RPI by definition of the historical standard, but RPI by NewWorlds' definition, when I visited his game. So I don't know where he comes off telling anyone else what an RPI should be, because his own game doesn't fit his own criteria. Go ahead and check his website - you have to be IN game to see the help files, because there isn't any place on the website to click to them - which means your character has to be idle and be NOT roleplaying, while the player is reading the help files. Real intensive there. Then there's the RP logs - the bulk of which involve: So and so smiles A different so and so nods So and so says, to no one in particular because most players here don't direct what they're saying to anyone, "yeah" Another so and so smiles softly So and so nods Some other so and so smiles. And then a dozen people pray softly and lighten the area...yet you don't see anyone attempting to shield their eyes from what must be blinding light by now. You don't see the grass wither, you don't see children scream...we're talking 5,000,000,000 candlepower light by now, clearly, and everyone is still just smiling and nodding. (the arguement is: well that's just the echo of the pray command for clerics, or whatever. And my arguement back to them is - the game enforces, promotes, and supports "intensive roleplay" how, exactly, if no one is reacting to echoes of many people making an already-lit area lighter, and lighter, and lighter, and lighter...?) Yeah, that just sucks me into the RP like no other game I've ever played. I don't know about anyone else but wow. And notice the creative lack of punctuation. It's so intensive I'm waiting to see someone say, "hey u no where 2 find teh mob 4 lvl 2????!!!!1111" In addition, New Worlds claims that it's custom, here on TopMudsites. Yet on the MudConnector, it says it's LP (Custom) which implies that it is a derivitive of an LP mud, and not a "true" custom. Is it an LP mud? Or is it a custom code? Or is it whatever the forum member known as NewWorlds decides he wants it to be, just like he's decided he wants to call his RP-enforced hack-n-slash an RPI? New Worlds just wants his game to seem more "special" and he thinks that calling his game an RPI will make it more special. It's a nice mud, as muds go, but it isn't an RPI, it isn't even RP-intensive. It's just a nice mud for people who are looking for nice muds. If you're looking for an RPI and get suckered into trying his game without first reading the website, you'll find his game doesn't remotely resemble an RPI, in ANY sense of the term.

I'll start by stating, Slating NewWorlds is my job.

You've also given the impression that you did little more than, look at the website and spent very little time logged in. Infact your only refference to being logged on was reading helpfiles.

Are you slating the Mud or the website,

As for the Custom, Custom LP argument.

LP muds are based on drivers and codebases on top they're a two part affair, The Drivers an LP driver the mudlibs custom.. so given its a Custom Mudlib, I fail to see how 'custom' is an inaccurate term.


Your quarms seem less in regards too the mud but more of what the game shows on its website in way of very outdated and old log files... and a ingame help system!

Splendid Review.

[Threshold]

Originally Posted by Jherlen If it's the term RPI itself that people seem to have a problem with, maybe a different term should have been chosen (probably too late to coin another one by now.) But I think the intent was just to qualify a subset of RP games with similar features and set them apart from the larger whole, for players interested in games like those.

I agree, and I have been saying this for a long time.

What the RPI people mean by RPI is "Armageddon/Harshland Feature Set." Prof says they are all derived (in feature set) from those 2, so why not accurately categorize them based on those 2? Then you have a proper name and not a generic name.

Why not ARP (Armaggedon RP), or AHRP (Armaggedon Harslands RP), or RPA (Role Play, Armaggedon style), or anything of that nature. Then you have a term that nobody else can lay claim to, because you are referring to a specific origin and therefore a specific feature set.

"Role Play Intensive" simply doesn't imply anything related to what the RPI folks are actually using the term for. They have a basket of features they like and they really need a non-generic term for it that doesn't reek of elitism and superiority.

Originally Posted by Jazuela Go ahead and check his website - you have to be IN game to see the help files, because there isn't any place on the website to click to them - which means your character has to be idle and be NOT roleplaying, while the player is reading the help files. Real intensive there. ... Yeah, that just sucks me into the RP like no other game I've ever played. I don't know about anyone else but wow. And notice the creative lack of punctuation. It's so intensive I'm waiting to

I won't even get into the fact that hyperventilating over some light or demanding that every say be directed at a specific person sounds like horribly over-acted, dreadful community theater. It reminds me of when I was playing an "official" RPI one time and I stumbled upon someone literally RPing being a blade of grass. Different strokes for different folks and all, but it definitely isn't something to get superior about. See Waiting for Guffman if you don't understand what I mean.

I snipped most of your post, but wow, Jazuela. That was some of the most extreme elitism I've read in a while. I mean, that was Hank Steinbrenneresque. And you wonder why people ACCURATELY label the RPI crowd elitist and snobby? Unbelieveable. That is quite possibly the first time I have ever read a non-troll so openly and brazely trash someone's mud "to their face" in an open forum. That is just beyond the pale and uncalled for.

I don't call any of my MUDs "RPI", and after reading your latest post I would never want to. If it meant someone with that attitude might end up on my MUD, I definitely wouldn't want to risk it.