[Dunestalker]

Man...for calling someone ignorant...some of you are proving yourselves to be by NOT READING exactly what I said.

I did state that it was MY OPINION.

I said few very few, if any OOC channels. I did not say one could not be if they had ANY.

Yes, actors do have some OOC interaction...though usually NOT in the middle of the scene.

Threshold, if you are going to call someone ignorant, at least READ what they are saying before you respond.

As I had stated it's my opinion and I'm entitled to it, call it elitist, fine I don't care it's your opinion and you are entitled to it and it means somewhere between jack and **** to me.

Originally Posted by (KaVir @ April 24 2004,03:26) the fact that, to many people, "RPI" already has an established meaning.

Unfortunately you haven't established that at all.   I count maybe 3 or 4 people that think there's a specific list of criteria.   A list which would invalidate Armageddon, BTW.   It would seem that the list of specific criteria are nonsense as Armeggedon is certainly an RPI mud.   I don't see any disagreement with that here.  

I also cannot find history of the term in regards to the criteria you posted.  No not even in the conversations you posted from '97, which are laced with "IMHO".   Robbert implied that maybe exploring the history of the term wasn't a good idea.   I can understand why.   There isn't any.   Well actually there is a history of people apparently using the term quite loosely from 98 onwards.   (i.e. Nimud, SwordQuest).  

The term is obviously not pure, and never has been pure.  It's kind of late in the game to start enforcing some sort of specific criteria and/or ownership of some acronym.  If you've gotta say, well "RPI is Harshlands" then you might as well not even bother clarifying it as nobody is ever going to be remotely confused by the term RPI.

I've noted a few muds on TMC put RPI in the codebase portion of their listing.  What's up with that?
Will some committee be approaching MystariaMush to explain that they can't call their game an RPI?

Where is the list of criteria?
Who developed the list?
Who maintains it?

[KaVir]

Originally Posted by (Tyche @ April 25 2004,06:41) Originally Posted by (KaVir @ April 24 2004,03:26) the fact that, to many people, "RPI" already has an established meaning. Unfortunately you haven't established that at all.

I've provided links to its usage going back 7 years, and the reference in question suggests it predates that by some time.

Originally Posted by I count maybe 3 or 4 people that think there's a specific list of criteria. A list which would invalidate Armageddon, BTW.

In what way does it invalidate Armageddon?

Originally Posted by I also cannot find history of the term in regards to the criteria you posted. No not even in the conversations you posted from '97, which are laced with "IMHO".

The post I linked to contains no instances of "IMHO". The entire conversation of 17 posts contains a single instance of "IMHO", which was specifically made in reference to whether or not levels in roleplaying games should be hidden.

Originally Posted by Robbert implied that maybe exploring the history of the term wasn't a good idea. I can understand why. There isn't any.

Then I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree, as to me, people using the term over a period of 7+ years indicates "history" to me, at least in mud terms.

Originally Posted by The term is obviously not pure, and never has been pure.

Neither are any mud terms. What is an "RP mud"? As has been demonstrated already, going by its literal meaning Doom is an RP mud. But do most people consider Doom to be an RP mud?

Originally Posted by Where is the list of criteria? Who developed the list? Who maintains it?

Where are the lists of criteria for "RP", "PK", "GoP" and "HnS"?
Who developed those lists?
Who maintains them?

If I talk about a PK mud, people familiar with that term immediately have an idea of what sort of mud that is. The same if I talk to someone familiar with RP muds - and the RPI is no different.

You dislike the term, and you're obviously not familiar with it - but other people are, and ignoring them isn't going to change the fact that if someone lists a mud as an RPI, many potential players will have immediate expectations about what sort of features that mud will offer.

[Geras]

Lol Dune, I thought he was refering to me... which I guess shows how far my self-confidence has sank due to Engineering.