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dark acacia · 01-09-2013, 01:34 PM

I have to disagree that the reason people stick with their friends is because newbies don't often stick around. Newbie retention in a game, and especially an enforced role play game, is everyone's job. If someone shows up for a scene and tries to participate, the worst that the regulars can do is overlook him because of an attitude of "oh, he'll be gone tomorrow anyway." By ignoring new players, you ensure that they won't be back. If someone really wasn't going to stick around regardless of whether he is included, they probably wouldn't get through the entire character creation process or make more than a feeble attempt at anything beyond that.

No, I still think a large part of the problem is an established pack mentality. It's an unconscious will to guard against outsiders because they were not participating before (in the good old days) and can't possibly live up to the group's expectations now. Perhaps it's even an unwillingness to replace a friend who stopped playing.

There's always some comment about the newbie having to make some kind of effort in order to be included, and it seems like there can never be enough effort to get included. How many scenes must a newbie sit through and pose with no response before he has demonstrated that he put in enough effort?

01-09-2013, 01:34 PM	#6
dark acacia Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 263	Re: Games that already have everyone they want I have to disagree that the reason people stick with their friends is because newbies don't often stick around. Newbie retention in a game, and especially an enforced role play game, is everyone's job. If someone shows up for a scene and tries to participate, the worst that the regulars can do is overlook him because of an attitude of "oh, he'll be gone tomorrow anyway." By ignoring new players, you ensure that they won't be back. If someone really wasn't going to stick around regardless of whether he is included, they probably wouldn't get through the entire character creation process or make more than a feeble attempt at anything beyond that. No, I still think a large part of the problem is an established pack mentality. It's an unconscious will to guard against outsiders because they were not participating before (in the good old days) and can't possibly live up to the group's expectations now. Perhaps it's even an unwillingness to replace a friend who stopped playing. There's always some comment about the newbie having to make some kind of effort in order to be included, and it seems like there can never be enough effort to get included. How many scenes must a newbie sit through and pose with no response before he has demonstrated that he put in enough effort?