Thread: Gay rights?
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Old 05-24-2005, 12:28 AM   #101
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Throughout the posts I have noticed that you basically do not wish a discussion going outside of what you already chose to believe is the truth. Aside of the extremist comments of whomever wanted to shoot all gay people, many have argumented their position based on what they do believe.

Asking people to set their beliefs aside, their morals aside, their religion aside and then trying to build a debate around an issue, and right away disqualifying all the arguments people have used with a wave of your "pen" and no argument behind tells that probably this whole thread about gay rights was never really intended to be used for any debate, since you are just killing it and forcing people to agree with you.

It might sound odd, but most legal systems throughout the world are somehow founded on some moral values usually dictated by whatever religion dominated that part of the world when the guidelines were set. It is clear that laws prohibiting things like incest for example, a common practice in the natural world but something we frown uppon as westerners (those of us who are), will not find a really solid scientific explanation for, at least not when they were declared illegal. It is just an example, and might have flaws, the point is, that the morals are usually founded in a religious teaching, and the reason for the morals of the world to be so similar is that most religions share many of their structural commandments.

This said, I think with your post Kopri (Posted on May 23 2005,17:15) you basically disregarded many of the arguments given by some of the people who actually attempted to contribute intelligently to your original thread. If what you want is people to just say: Homosexuals should have every single right heterosexuals do, maybe you should have added a comment at the end that read something like: if you do not agree, please don't reply.

Anyway, if you trully are using this for a debate, go an learn how to moderate one, go and study the facts before summarizing (actually, read people's feedback) and try not to insultingly disregard other people's opinions or ideas without even stopping to support your claims with a real argument.

For your vague original question though, my own answer was Anti-. Though as pointed by someone above, it is poorly asked, and obviously intended to make Pro- the only "correct" answer.

Have a nice day,
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