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04-16-2004, 12:28 PM

I think it's been established that it is fairly recent term and it is ineffably subjective. But there is more to support that below.

I've found a few bits and pieces.

The first mention of RPI on the mud-dev mail list was in late 1999 by Locke announce the release of an RPI codebase Nimud 2000. It features a who list, a global channel called OOC, a score command, no permadeath. Doesn't look like there was any contention over Locke's use of the term. Were not the imlementors of these RPI muds on the list? Methinks they were indeed.

In 1998 someone releases an RPI game SwordQuest which had no permadeath.

And I find it odd that one of Armeggedon forum's prolific posters (and I would assume players) isn't aware of that RPI has very specific criteria, and was suprised by what you told him. Again specific criteria which have never been published.

Yeah it's probably why neither Harshlands nor Armeggedon advertise their muds as RPIs. Because not even players and implementors of those two muds apparently care what it means. And it's also without a doubt certainly true that many of those players would find Threshold or DartMud right up their alley as well. Don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with any of them. In fact they do share the same general role-playing style. Imagine that. There is a general subset of role-players that those games would appeal do. And they don't wear an ISO service mark (i.e. RPI) on their forehead.

I would note it appears to be an attempt by one or two implementors, looks like they are associated with a defunct mud named Aldarra, repeatedly proffering their OPINION on what constitutes a good roleplay mud. "That's not RPI" "Yes it is" "No it isn't".

I'll tell you what it looks like to me. A bunch of left-brained Type B Diku hobbits who finally discovered role-playing after 6 years online trying to dictate the use of an acronym they can't even agree on amongst themselves. Yeah that's what it looks like, because that is exactly what it is.

You are right, the acronym is not at all like MOO, Mush, Mud, Muck, etc. It's definately like RP, PK, HnS... Looks like it is indeed a subset of RP. And apparently just as clear as pornography, we knows it when we sees it.

One wonders why anyone would even bother correcting a poster who would *kof* "misuse" it. I would venture it's especially annoying if you are a roleplayer to be corrected on a term by those who don't really give a flying crap about role-playing anyways.

That may just be exactly why I posted. Let the hobbit John tell you what RPI means to him. I suspect from reading his posts he's actually got a bit of elven blood in him.

It's a #### GOOD THING RPI does not have specific definition as it would completely squelch any and all discussion on it.

04-16-2004, 12:28 PM	#55
Posts: n/a	I think it's been established that it is fairly recent term and it is ineffably subjective. But there is more to support that below. I've found a few bits and pieces. The first mention of RPI on the mud-dev mail list was in late 1999 by Locke announce the release of an RPI codebase Nimud 2000. It features a who list, a global channel called OOC, a score command, no permadeath. Doesn't look like there was any contention over Locke's use of the term. Were not the imlementors of these RPI muds on the list? Methinks they were indeed. In 1998 someone releases an RPI game SwordQuest which had no permadeath. And I find it odd that one of Armeggedon forum's prolific posters (and I would assume players) isn't aware of that RPI has very specific criteria, and was suprised by what you told him. Again specific criteria which have never been published. Yeah it's probably why neither Harshlands nor Armeggedon advertise their muds as RPIs. Because not even players and implementors of those two muds apparently care what it means. And it's also without a doubt certainly true that many of those players would find Threshold or DartMud right up their alley as well. Don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with any of them. In fact they do share the same general role-playing style. Imagine that. There is a general subset of role-players that those games would appeal do. And they don't wear an ISO service mark (i.e. RPI) on their forehead. I would note it appears to be an attempt by one or two implementors, looks like they are associated with a defunct mud named Aldarra, repeatedly proffering their OPINION on what constitutes a good roleplay mud. "That's not RPI" "Yes it is" "No it isn't". I'll tell you what it looks like to me. A bunch of left-brained Type B Diku hobbits who finally discovered role-playing after 6 years online trying to dictate the use of an acronym they can't even agree on amongst themselves. Yeah that's what it looks like, because that is exactly what it is. You are right, the acronym is not at all like MOO, Mush, Mud, Muck, etc. It's definately like RP, PK, HnS... Looks like it is indeed a subset of RP. And apparently just as clear as pornography, we knows it when we sees it. One wonders why anyone would even bother correcting a poster who would kof "misuse" it. I would venture it's especially annoying if you are a roleplayer to be corrected on a term by those who don't really give a flying crap about role-playing anyways. That may just be exactly why I posted. Let the hobbit John tell you what RPI means to him. I suspect from reading his posts he's actually got a bit of elven blood in him. It's a #### GOOD THING RPI does not have specific definition as it would completely squelch any and all discussion on it.