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Threshold · 02-05-2006, 02:57 PM

Terrible, worthless analogy. That individual's personal taxes have nothing to do with the business. Let me fix the analogy for you.

If your CFO engaged in tax fraud, then yes, your company would be held accountable. Hello Enron.

For quite some time, there was *no* TMS vote link anywhere on his site. Not on the forums. Not on the front page. Nowhere. He got reported for this by one of his own players who visited TMS. At that time, other TMS folks logged in to MM and ask players if they knew about voting. Nobody did. So MM was getting hundreds of votes per day with no vote link, and the players of the game had no idea what "voting" was.

The punishment for that first incident was a warning and he was forced to actually put a vote link on his site.

Then we have the incident described in this thread, where MM would normally average a handful of votes per hour, and then every 10 hours or so would get about 200+ in 5 minutes.

For you to say Vasago had no idea something was being done so enormously to his benefit just doesn't pass the sniff test. This went on for weeks. There is no reasonable way he could not know about it. Firstly, mud admins generally know what the heck is going on related to their games - eventually. Secondly, while players can be quite zealous in support of their game, that type of zealot doesn't do things without wanting credit. Even if it wasn't Vasago's idea (though I believe it was), you can be darn sure Lothos would have told Vasago about it if for no other reason than to get credit/appreciation.

The fact that there is additional circumstantial evidence just adds to this. In fact, that person's web site where he explains what he did fits perfectly with the facts from the time. There are things he says on that site that were not publicly revealed. He knew about the graph that someone else generated by tracking MM's voting pattern. He described exactly how the vote surges worked for MM. He knew details about the situation that only someone actually involved in the process could know.

Your ridiculous fanboism has reached a truly insane level. What we know as fact is that MM was caught cheating multiple times, and the last one did them in permanently. What any reasonable person can deduce from the situation is that Vasago knew about it and sanctioned it.

Your silly denials to the contrary are absurd.

02-05-2006, 02:57 PM	#56
Threshold Legend Join Date: Apr 2002 Home MUD: Threshold RPG Posts: 1,260	Terrible, worthless analogy. That individual's personal taxes have nothing to do with the business. Let me fix the analogy for you. If your CFO engaged in tax fraud, then yes, your company would be held accountable. Hello Enron. For quite some time, there was no TMS vote link anywhere on his site. Not on the forums. Not on the front page. Nowhere. He got reported for this by one of his own players who visited TMS. At that time, other TMS folks logged in to MM and ask players if they knew about voting. Nobody did. So MM was getting hundreds of votes per day with no vote link, and the players of the game had no idea what "voting" was. The punishment for that first incident was a warning and he was forced to actually put a vote link on his site. Then we have the incident described in this thread, where MM would normally average a handful of votes per hour, and then every 10 hours or so would get about 200+ in 5 minutes. For you to say Vasago had no idea something was being done so enormously to his benefit just doesn't pass the sniff test. This went on for weeks. There is no reasonable way he could not know about it. Firstly, mud admins generally know what the heck is going on related to their games - eventually. Secondly, while players can be quite zealous in support of their game, that type of zealot doesn't do things without wanting credit. Even if it wasn't Vasago's idea (though I believe it was), you can be darn sure Lothos would have told Vasago about it if for no other reason than to get credit/appreciation. The fact that there is additional circumstantial evidence just adds to this. In fact, that person's web site where he explains what he did fits perfectly with the facts from the time. There are things he says on that site that were not publicly revealed. He knew about the graph that someone else generated by tracking MM's voting pattern. He described exactly how the vote surges worked for MM. He knew details about the situation that only someone actually involved in the process could know. Your ridiculous fanboism has reached a truly insane level. What we know as fact is that MM was caught cheating multiple times, and the last one did them in permanently. What any reasonable person can deduce from the situation is that Vasago knew about it and sanctioned it. Your silly denials to the contrary are absurd.