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Robbert · 07-21-2002, 05:51 PM

When someone achieves a spectacular scoring hit on another through RolePlay or use of the accepted codified norms, this is worth recognition and lauding. That person shall be labelled 'good', and shall be showered with all forms of recognition by other players, and the world will sit well.

When that same someone achieves that same 'hit' through a loophole in the code, or by violating a proscribed rule of the system, that person shall be declared 'cheater' and 'villein', and shall be spit upon by all present, and Cast Out, that he may walk through the nether regions of hell, and despair.

Under the first axiom above, one has proven that they can excel by adhering to the same stipulations as every other player.

Under the second, they have cast their acceptance of the very rules which govern the existance of the system in which they play to the wind, and become a blight.

I personally have no patience for the second type of person. They are not a player, they are a destroyer. You could apply the same twisted logic which justifies their presence to the deeds of a raper - for is it not their satisfaction which is being reaped? To throw back to KaVir's earlier analogy: I have absolutely no problem (and, in fact, take great joy) in reminding a violator of our rules that they exist at my whim, and then withdrawing that whim.

Note that this does not mean that the programmer is entirely faultless; any hole in a function is through failure to properly design and account for the actions of the players. One should account for the possibility of poor consideration, and take it with a grain of salt when a player does utilize such a loophole - the first time. If a player habitually finds these, then they should be recognized, not punished. If one habitually finds them, and then suddenly stops reporting them, then you have failed as a programmer to properly compensate them, and you will reap the consequences. (This from experience).

There's a difference between finding a bug and exploiting a loophole. But, to answer the question: If you think that it is good to play outside of the rules, then you are fooling yourself, and using the thin veneer of that justification to cover the fact that you are, in truth, chaos.

07-21-2002, 05:51 PM	#13
Robbert Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: #### Paso, Tx Posts: 89	When someone achieves a spectacular scoring hit on another through RolePlay or use of the accepted codified norms, this is worth recognition and lauding. That person shall be labelled 'good', and shall be showered with all forms of recognition by other players, and the world will sit well. When that same someone achieves that same 'hit' through a loophole in the code, or by violating a proscribed rule of the system, that person shall be declared 'cheater' and 'villein', and shall be spit upon by all present, and Cast Out, that he may walk through the nether regions of hell, and despair. Under the first axiom above, one has proven that they can excel by adhering to the same stipulations as every other player. Under the second, they have cast their acceptance of the very rules which govern the existance of the system in which they play to the wind, and become a blight. I personally have no patience for the second type of person. They are not a player, they are a destroyer. You could apply the same twisted logic which justifies their presence to the deeds of a raper - for is it not their satisfaction which is being reaped? To throw back to KaVir's earlier analogy: I have absolutely no problem (and, in fact, take great joy) in reminding a violator of our rules that they exist at my whim, and then withdrawing that whim. Note that this does not mean that the programmer is entirely faultless; any hole in a function is through failure to properly design and account for the actions of the players. One should account for the possibility of poor consideration, and take it with a grain of salt when a player does utilize such a loophole - the first time. If a player habitually finds these, then they should be recognized, not punished. If one habitually finds them, and then suddenly stops reporting them, then you have failed as a programmer to properly compensate them, and you will reap the consequences. (This from experience). There's a difference between finding a bug and exploiting a loophole. But, to answer the question: If you think that it is good to play outside of the rules, then you are fooling yourself, and using the thin veneer of that justification to cover the fact that you are, in truth, chaos.