[Milawe]

No offense, but I think you missed the main point of this thread if this is what you got out of it.

You're stating this as if we don't all know that we're a niche hobby. That's kind of not the point. In the end, online gaming is not considered a mainstream hobby period, even if you include all the big-name MMOs and such. Video games in general are considered for kids, so gets very little impact in general. Dungeons and Dragons is hardly mainstream at all, and if you look at Dragonlance's article, it has little to no sources outside of TSR/WoTC materials. It hasn't been in the press for a very long time.

Does that really matter? Wikipedia has a very specific set of rules to govern fictional material and games in order to aid them in being listed.

That's fine, but is it really right to tell people they shouldn't care either? If everyone took on that attitude, then there wouldn't be any attempt to preserve and better document mud history. Even if Threshold's article on Wikipedia becomes nothing more than a fossil in time, at the very least, other muds might be able to start snapping up what's out there now before other sites holding resources are lost.

Funny you should say that since I was looking at the amigurumi article on Wikipedia last night. It's a gigantic movement in Asia that's recently made its way to the US. The problem they're having with sourcing is that most of the source materials are in Japanese, and Wikipedia heavily discourages sources that are not in English. Amigurumi is a sub-set of knitting and crocheting, much like a single mud is a sub-set of mudding in general. The article as it is now would be deleted in a heartbeat, but it'd probably be given a bit more chance to survive if sources could be located.

Threshold had a spike in usage this year as well. That's not going to keep our Wikipedia article, though. Looking at things in the long run, if Wikipedia's editors continue this kind of behavior, it won't be long until something bigger and brighter can come its way and make it obsolete. Editors who get sick of the inane system that governs Wikipedia will simply move on to other places, and if content continues to get removed, then it's not hard to imagine that they'll have very little left to work with. We've seen this happen in our own industry where companies have shut down their text muds and moved out of the community once they got their graphical ones up.

Lastly, it may not matter much to Wikipedia as a whole, but with something that (Wikipedia's) size, very little is going to matter much to Wikipedia as a whole. Who it does matter to is the editors who have been touched by this issue as well as people who care about the actual issue such as prominent names in our community who have actually moved beyond muds to other things as well.

As for your comments on TMS, I don't really see it as being any different than Rotten Tomatoes or a dozen other movie sites that are used as resources on Wikipedia all the time. TMS is a ranking site with forums and some articles. It doesn't really pretend to be more than that.