Why, oh why do you anti-"play for perks" folks always take the bait?? the_logos knew that when he posted this thread that the same ol' people would immediately start flaming him. Of course the thread is now 4 pages long (so far), & was so successful that he has posted another "bait thread". If you folks would just shut up with the bitching, the_logos posts would disappear a lot faster. Course, I've just extended the thread myself, but please, this same argument has been played out over & over, & nothing's changed. IRE is not going to change, so why bother...
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