Thread: Sex & Violence
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:22 AM   #57
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Re: Sex & Violence

A question once asked by Socrates in ancient times too. Is a thing good because the gods say so, or because it is? And if it is good anyway, based on your own observation of the world, then why do you need gods? But, if its only good because they say so, then its wholly arbitrary, since in principle they could change their minds at any time. Kind of a chicken and the egg issue. lol They had him kill himself using hemlock, using a logic trap which basically placed him, in the position of denying everything he said, while refusing to take it, or taking it, and standing up for everything he said... He, unfortunately for his health, had a habit of pulling the rug out from under people's feet in such a way that they where upside down and facing the wrong direction when done, with no means to give a self consistent and rational response that didn't undermine their own assertions. Modern unthinkers are mostly immune to this tactic, since they just insist they where always facing that direction and liked standing on their head, then repeating the same silly assertions all over again, as though you never said anything at all. Its... both fascinating and disturbing to see.
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