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Old 03-31-2006, 05:17 PM   #1
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"But Valg, I'm no math major, but that doesn't sound like a very good deal."

See, the thing is... <span style='color:red'>Carrion Fields</span> is run by gamers, not advertising wizards or accountants.  And as gamers, we put gameplay, balance, and fairness ahead of gimmicks and bribes.  So today, like every other day at Carrion Fields, we're offering 100% XP.  You can earn it at 100% normal rate through warfare, commerce, exploration, observation, skill refinement, quests, roleplay, or however else you like, but you aren't going to see us toss out all that game balance stuff to throw you a freebie.  You're just going to have to get off your virtual butt and earn it, mister.  (Or Ms.  We have a sizable number of female players and staff.)

It's also why we don't sell "perks".  We want achievement to come from your brain, not your wallet.  If you're the Chief Orc in the village, it's because you beat down or out-connived every last one of the competition on a level playing field, not because you wrote us a check.  We're FREE, not "free", or free(*).  Sign on, and you're wearing the same gear as the guy next to you started with, without any of the hassle of a long registration process.  (Just give us a character name, answer a few simple questions, and you're on your way!)

As gamers, we understand that when you sign on, you're with us to play, not watch the MUD equivalent of commercials.  We won't interrupt you to advertise, twist your arm to vote, or try to sell you stuff.  Roleplaying is a priority, and there's nothing worse for roleplaying than some snake-oil salesman shattering your immersion.  It's also why we require it from all characters.  Ever try to roleplay when 80% of the room doesn't care?  It's a waste of your time, and we're inviting you to a place where your effort will be appreciated and rewarded.

This sense of fairness extends to how you'll be treated by the staff as well.  There's no "Super-Diamond-Level Customer Service" with a payment plan and a direct-deposit option.  You operate within the same set of rules as everyone else, and you're just as important as the next guy, all without spending a dime.  People who break the rules don't get 400 chances because we're hoping to milk a few more bucks out of them.  They get shown the door, because we realize that getting rid of one cheater can help us keep more than one honest player.

On another thread, another mud admin asked how we consistently stay near the top of the TMS list without cheating, buying ads, or charging money.  This admin asked how we did it, no doubt trying to discover some "trick" to drag back to a flock of waiting accountants in unappealing, homogenous suits.  Yuck.

There is no trick.  We're not magicians.  We're not showmen.  We're gamers.  A lot of people appreciate a challenging, fair, FREE game, and are willing to click a button to just say "Thanks."

To them, I say "You're welcome!  (But we're still not giving you any free XP.)"
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Old 03-31-2006, 05:22 PM   #2
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Interesting post and sales pitch!

What has kept me from trying Carrion Fields is the PK aspect. From what I understand, level-range-restricted PK'ing is part of the game. As a quiet, peace-loving adult, I have no interest whatsoever in PK'ing, and in other MUDs, I will not enter PK zones (knowingly) for any reason. (I also find PK-related games tend to attract more jerks and d00ds than non-PK-related games.)

So I'll use your post as an opportunity to ask you directly: is Carrion Fields worth trying for someone who will not, for any reason, kill another player; and who has no desire to be killed by others while trying to enjoy the rest of the game?

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Old 03-31-2006, 06:20 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by (Eppy @ Mar. 31 2006,17:22)
So I'll use your post as an opportunity to ask you directly: is Carrion Fields worth trying for someone who will not, for any reason, kill another player; and who has no desire to be killed by others while trying to enjoy the rest of the game?
I don't think we'd be a good match for you. (This is sad, because you sound like the kind of reasonable, mature person we target.) All characters (except very low level ones) are "in" the PK system, and can be attacked by other adventurers, within reasonable roleplay constraints. There are no opt-out or mutual-consent systems involved.

That said, we've had a lot of players who de-emphasize the PK side (out of disinterest or ineptitude) in favor of exploration, roleplaying, or other pursuits. Some eventually add a PK facet to their repertoire, and some just get good at playing hard-to-dislike characters who are good at staying alive. So I'd characterize it as more of a "Probably not." than a flat "No.", but it wouldn't do either of us any good if I pretend CF is the bestest game evar for every conceivable player.
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Old 03-31-2006, 06:21 PM   #4
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It's hard to have a blanket answer for this, so I'll list several points as best I can. Bare with me, and I'll conclude with an answer at the end!

Being completely PK-safe seems like a complete break in roleplay to me. When in our real world are you ever completely safe, never mind in a midevil world? Pick up ANY fantasy book, and the plot is driven by some kind of danger, somewhere, to someone. If you can point to a fantasy book that involves no danger to any of the characters, I certainly wont read it, but I'll concede the point.

That said, characters on a regular basis choose to avoid PKing others. For you, I would recomend the Herald cabal. The entire organization is centered around people who explore, entertain, tell stories, tend the Lyceum (a huge library of in-game information, history and lore), sing, and even serve custom-made drinks to their patrons. Like everyone else in the game, they are not completely safe, although the place the reside in (The Inn of the Eternal Star) is safer then almost anywhere else in the world. While they're safer there, they also certainly venture outside of it on a regular basis and face the same danger as everyone else.

In short, it's a given that you're going to face player killing in our world, within the regulated bounds of roleplay. But man, if you like roleplaying, that danger is what drives it. How can you play a righteous paladin without having bad guys to deal with? How can you be a vile undead-wielding necromancer if no one is afraid of your dark magics? How can you be a true healer if no one ever needs healing? We have had goodly pacifist characters who played hundreds of hours and ended up with a pk ratio of 0 wins and 3 losses. Conversely, we had an evil fire giant warrior who was the Emperor of Thera with a pk ratio of 395 wins and 46 losses. Will you be able to achieve either of these extremes with your first character? Probably not. But once you get into the swing of it, you'll enjoy it, and get better and better.

There is room for both types of players in our world! If you absolutely can't stomach violence in any way, then CF isn't for you. But I would argue strongly that every other roleplaying aspect of the game is enhanced by the occasional danger. We have players that couldn't PK a canary with a howitzer, and they enjoy the game just as much as characters that ARE the howitzer.
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Old 03-31-2006, 06:25 PM   #5
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Awesome. For once, I'm the concise one.
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Old 03-31-2006, 06:53 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by (Valg @ Mar. 31 2006,18:20)
I don't think we'd be a good match for you. (This is sad, because you sound like the kind of reasonable, mature person we target.) All characters (except very low level ones) are "in" the PK system, and can be attacked by other adventurers, within reasonable roleplay constraints. There are no opt-out or mutual-consent systems involved.
I very much appreciate that honesty. I, too, came to the same conclusion, which is why I have never logged-in and tried to play Carrion Fields.

To respond to Aarn:

I understand and accept your viewpoints of "PK enhances roleplay!", but I choose note to accept it for myself. I do not enjoy killing other players. I do not enjoy the emotions such actions evoke (from either the killer or the victim). I do not enjoy the bloodsport competitiveness which PK is often accompanied by. I absolutely do not like the long-seen trend that PK (and broader scale PvP) encourages: cheating, exploiting, and an atmosphere of power gamers vs. casual players. (Please note I am not saying such concepts are a problem for, or exist in, Carrion Fields. As readers of the thread will note, I have never played Carrion Fields. But I have been gaming my entire adult life, and I've seen it in every other PvP-oriented game, so I make such generalizations based on a lot of empirical evidence.)

I am glad you and the players of Carrion Fields enjoy the game! But I just like killing fluffy bunnies (the ebil ones, of course) and solving puzzles and exploring areas. I don't like killing John Doe and Jane Roe, two real life people just trying to have fun, and I don't like having my game-playing experiences interrupted (with no provocation) by the 13 year-old player (who is way better at this than I) just because she can.

You both represent your MUD very well, and I salute you and wish you luck in your endeavor!

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[Edit: this post has been heavily edited. I blame the ebil bunny rabbits.]
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Old 03-31-2006, 07:04 PM   #7
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S'cool man. I had to give my sales pitch a shot, you sound like an intelligent player, just the kind we like to find!

Be careful with those bunnies man, Monty Python will tell you how dangerous they can be.
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Old 03-31-2006, 07:10 PM   #8
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Be careful with those bunnies man, Monty Python will tell you how dangerous they can be.
heh, heh!

I need to get Soleil to tell me where the ebil bunny rabbits are in Medievia (which I'm currently playing). I have some revenge to enact on them!

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Old 03-31-2006, 08:11 PM   #9
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I've never played CF, but I've seen you guys around since about 2000 and have never seen CF in negative light. Actually I think an old MUD I played was spawned from some CF people or ex-staff.

You guys seem to have a really great game going, and though I don't play, wish you the best of luck.
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Old 04-01-2006, 11:55 AM   #10
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Thanks Crystal.

I know we've spawned an offshoot or two over the years, although I'm only aware of one or two that are still operating. It's like mini-CFs!
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