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Sojourn · 11-06-2003, 06:08 PM

We are looking for people that can build areas with a bit of continuity and life. All areas must be original and we have very strict rules regarding length of descriptions, tone of content (as far as profanity, etc.), and repetition.

With that said, we do not stifle creativity of any type and our world is extensive enough to accomodate almost any of area or idea that could fit into a Medeival world setting.

While I cannot discuss the exacts of our game, please take the time to contact me via email and your questions can be addressed there:

Sojourn to the truth.

Jazuela · 11-06-2003, 07:20 PM

Well I guess I'm disqualified from eligibility. I'm a fake builder, not a true one.

>Jazuela builds fake things - extremely well.

Tezcatlipoca · 11-07-2003, 12:20 PM

Sojourn · 11-08-2003, 04:37 PM

Creativity has nothing to do with length of description, lack of description does. Adult content has nothing to do with creativity, the law does. Repetition has nothing to do with creativity it has something to do with lack of creativity. (mazes and/or vast open lands are exceptions)

I understand why you builders choose to respond pseudo-negatively to the post, either you feel you are the top of the foodchain and feel none has the ability to question your talent. Or you realize you aren't that good and I've offended you.

Either way this post was not made for you, as you both obviously already have positions, it was made for those builders who require a new station. Go and appease your boredom elsewhere, thank you.

Sojourn to the truth.

Jazuela · 11-08-2003, 05:02 PM

Actually Sojourn, none of the above. I just saw the subject heading and it struck a funnybone.

Like..TRUE builders, as opposed to FALSE builders, wanted.

like..

True value hardware store, which shouldn't be confused with False value hardware store, you know, that store on the other side of town.

Or maybe I thought it was just a very pompous thing for you to write as a subject heading, implying that only elitist builders who know what a "real" builder is like should bother applying, everyone else should accept their obvious inferiority and go elsewhere.

I'm not a builder by the way. It was just one of those odd topic headings that screamed "POST A SARCASTIC RESPONSE!" to me. I'm a little quirky like that.

Spazmatic · 11-08-2003, 06:01 PM

Sojourn · 11-10-2003, 11:02 AM

Actually, not to say your methods aren't "right", but I find that brutal coldness literally brings the cream to the top. I wouldn't be surprised that if any of you that posted actually built, that you're phenomenal at what you do.

How do I know that? Simple.

A True builder isn't someone looking for "practice experience", they aren't people that make one description and repeats them a million times. They aren't people that show up for three weeks and then vanishes.

A "False" builder as you have aptly named them will see this post heading, perhaps read the content and then move on. Of all of the applicants I've received, and yes, I've received many, only three made the cut.

I am not attempting to be arrogant or pompous, I simply do not have time to waste teaching a builder how to create. Teaching OLC is fine, teaching them why "you" or "your" shouldn't be in descriptions because it forces action annoys me.

Time is life, and mine is limited.

Sojourn to the truth.

Azeroth · 11-10-2003, 12:21 PM

Greetings!
Azeroth Urden here. I just wanted to commend you Sojourn. With all of the people who troll these boards just to find something of interest to "gossip" about (typically of a level that can be described as AT LEAST a partial flame), you have stood your ground and explained that a high standard does not make you arrogant. I myself have been looking for the same level of excellence with my project. You, Sojourn, would probably *not* be surprised by the sheer amount of skillless "builders" I have had replies and applications from. It appears that the population of twinks in the mudcommunity is on the rise, my hope is that they don't become a majority. Keep your chin up and your standards high!

Best Wishes,
Azeroth

Xeria · 11-10-2003, 01:27 PM

Hear Hear to that

Spazmatic · 11-10-2003, 09:20 PM

Sojourn · 11-11-2003, 10:07 AM

Thank you Azeroth, its good to know someone understands what I mean. Through this post I have found some amazing builders, to the point that I learned new ways to do things. That was the goal of the post.

But with that said, if anyone is a builder with more than adequate skill, feel free to email me at:

Iluvatar · 11-13-2003, 07:49 PM

I chuckled for at least 15 minutes after reading this. Thanks guys!

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11-06-2003, 06:08 PM	#1
Sojourn New Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7	We are looking for people that can build areas with a bit of continuity and life. All areas must be original and we have very strict rules regarding length of descriptions, tone of content (as far as profanity, etc.), and repetition. With that said, we do not stifle creativity of any type and our world is extensive enough to accomodate almost any of area or idea that could fit into a Medeival world setting. While I cannot discuss the exacts of our game, please take the time to contact me via email and your questions can be addressed there: Sojourn to the truth.

11-06-2003, 07:20 PM	#2
Jazuela Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New England Posts: 849	Well I guess I'm disqualified from eligibility. I'm a fake builder, not a true one. >Jazuela builds fake things - extremely well.

11-07-2003, 12:20 PM	#3
Tezcatlipoca Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 46

11-08-2003, 04:37 PM	#4
Sojourn New Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7	Creativity has nothing to do with length of description, lack of description does. Adult content has nothing to do with creativity, the law does. Repetition has nothing to do with creativity it has something to do with lack of creativity. (mazes and/or vast open lands are exceptions) I understand why you builders choose to respond pseudo-negatively to the post, either you feel you are the top of the foodchain and feel none has the ability to question your talent. Or you realize you aren't that good and I've offended you. Either way this post was not made for you, as you both obviously already have positions, it was made for those builders who require a new station. Go and appease your boredom elsewhere, thank you. Sojourn to the truth.

11-08-2003, 05:02 PM	#5
Jazuela Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New England Posts: 849	Actually Sojourn, none of the above. I just saw the subject heading and it struck a funnybone. Like..TRUE builders, as opposed to FALSE builders, wanted. like.. True value hardware store, which shouldn't be confused with False value hardware store, you know, that store on the other side of town. Or maybe I thought it was just a very pompous thing for you to write as a subject heading, implying that only elitist builders who know what a "real" builder is like should bother applying, everyone else should accept their obvious inferiority and go elsewhere. I'm not a builder by the way. It was just one of those odd topic headings that screamed "POST A SARCASTIC RESPONSE!" to me. I'm a little quirky like that.

11-08-2003, 06:01 PM	#6
Spazmatic Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 103

11-10-2003, 11:02 AM	#7
Sojourn New Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7	Actually, not to say your methods aren't "right", but I find that brutal coldness literally brings the cream to the top. I wouldn't be surprised that if any of you that posted actually built, that you're phenomenal at what you do. How do I know that? Simple. A True builder isn't someone looking for "practice experience", they aren't people that make one description and repeats them a million times. They aren't people that show up for three weeks and then vanishes. A "False" builder as you have aptly named them will see this post heading, perhaps read the content and then move on. Of all of the applicants I've received, and yes, I've received many, only three made the cut. I am not attempting to be arrogant or pompous, I simply do not have time to waste teaching a builder how to create. Teaching OLC is fine, teaching them why "you" or "your" shouldn't be in descriptions because it forces action annoys me. Time is life, and mine is limited. Sojourn to the truth.

11-10-2003, 12:21 PM	#8
Azeroth Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 69	Greetings! Azeroth Urden here. I just wanted to commend you Sojourn. With all of the people who troll these boards just to find something of interest to "gossip" about (typically of a level that can be described as AT LEAST a partial flame), you have stood your ground and explained that a high standard does not make you arrogant. I myself have been looking for the same level of excellence with my project. You, Sojourn, would probably not be surprised by the sheer amount of skillless "builders" I have had replies and applications from. It appears that the population of twinks in the mudcommunity is on the rise, my hope is that they don't become a majority. Keep your chin up and your standards high! Best Wishes, Azeroth

11-10-2003, 01:27 PM	#9
Xeria New Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 21	Hear Hear to that

11-10-2003, 09:20 PM	#10
Spazmatic Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 103

11-11-2003, 10:07 AM	#11
Sojourn New Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7	Thank you Azeroth, its good to know someone understands what I mean. Through this post I have found some amazing builders, to the point that I learned new ways to do things. That was the goal of the post. But with that said, if anyone is a builder with more than adequate skill, feel free to email me at:

11-13-2003, 07:49 PM	#12
Iluvatar Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mississippi USA Posts: 142	I chuckled for at least 15 minutes after reading this. Thanks guys!

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