Advertising for Players

Dulan · 02-17-2003, 12:43 PM

Point 1: Brody himself has admitted that he has not played these MUDs.

Point 2: Brody has not stated the reasoning why he advertises for these MUDs.

Point 3: Human nature normally would dictate that people do something for something, not something for nothing.

Now, let me get this straight. Brody is advertising for MUDs who he has never played, and just randomly picks. No review, no reason to check them out, just, "Their ranking sucks! Check them out!".

There's got to be a reason he's doing this. Someone care to speculate? (And if someone spouts up with the "out of the goodness of his heart" garbage, wouldn't he actually bother to play the MUD and review it, rather then just pick something at random?)

-D

John · 02-17-2003, 01:24 PM

Well I'm going to beat everyone to saying it, and say "so he gets good PR which will cause people to check out his mud" *rolls his eyes*

Well I personally had no idea what mud he was on until it was said here.

And really, does any ONE person have enough times to review these muds? How much time is a fair enough time? Some muds are hard to start, but are REAL good once you get into it.

Brody · 02-17-2003, 01:33 PM

Dulan · 02-17-2003, 02:35 PM

Ah. I see.

So, it is to feed your own ego, as well as attain indirect advertising for your own projects then, Brody.

You'll have to pardon me if I'm rather undernethused with your whole scheme - all of your "underdog"/"loser" MUDs have a chance to advertise on the front page, just the same as you do. They choose not to do it. You choose to do it.

And, let me say this. I will never play any MUD that you've put on your precious underdog listing so far. I may not be the only one. Isn't that having the exact opposite effect you are hoping for? Or...could it be a potential intended effect?

Who knows. If it is intended, Brody'd never admit it./

-D

Brody · 02-17-2003, 02:42 PM

Uh. Right, Dulan. I don't already feed my ego with my columns or my games. I need to come to Top MUD Sites and mention other people's games in the hopes of somehow hornswaggling unsuspecting readers to my own games. It's all a one-man conspiracy. Thank you for pointing out the error in my ways.

Look, I write plenty about my games - in separate topics. Whether you believe my motives or not is immaterial. That you find them suspect is unsurprising. That far more people appreciate what I'm doing than honk off on it keeps it alive.

I'll gladly accept fan mail at from folks who are GLAD Dulan won't be showing up if I print their game's information.

Dulan · 02-17-2003, 02:45 PM

Heh. Amusing, Brody.

People who connect thie 'Dulan' persona to my actual, real gameplaying persona..-shake- Yare yare.

However, that response of yours basically confirmed my gut feeling. You have an ulterior motive, and you are not doing this just to get some "underdog" MUD on the front page of TMS.

While several previously stated hunches are partially correct, based on that reaction, none have directly hit the target yet.

Someone else care to help me speculate on his true motives? I'm drawing blanks here.

-D

Brody · 02-17-2003, 02:52 PM

Dulan · 02-17-2003, 03:05 PM

If you are going to PM me to do something, Brody, and then promptly shout out what it is.....

Yare yare ^.^.

-D, "Rhetorical? For real? Who knows!"

Brody · 02-17-2003, 03:07 PM

Ytrewtsu · 02-17-2003, 03:09 PM

Ulterior motives? How about wanting to make the mud community more of a community? I personally don't see how any of the posts regarding the motives of Brody or the meaning of the word underdog have anything to do with advertising for players. Brody has posted per the guidelines of this forum but we have at least one forum moderator posting completely off topic? This is not a flame board so why not let the post be as it is in line with the guidelines set forth by Synozeer.

Ytrewtsu

Dulan · 02-17-2003, 03:09 PM

Mmmm. 21st Century.

By now, weren't we supposed to have wonder-pills that could cure any sickness?

It'd be bloody nice to have a pill to cure stupidity. Oh yes.

-D

</Fallout reference>

Brody · 02-17-2003, 03:12 PM

Dulan · 02-17-2003, 03:13 PM

Le sigh.

Brody makes an obscure reference, and I follow up with another, and then he throws a ****y fit.

Kawaii. No, really.

Now, would someone care to seriously speculate on his real motives?

-D

Noximist · 02-17-2003, 04:36 PM

Alajha · 02-17-2003, 06:31 PM

KaVir · 02-17-2003, 06:52 PM

Brody, I don't care what you're posting, and I don't care why you're doing it. My points were never intended to be an attack on you, but rather to point out what I felt were discrepancies between what you said you were trying to do, and what you were actually achieving.

You have said that you're doing this for the benefit of the lower-ranked muds, so I simply pointed out that - if that's really what you want to do - there are better ways to go about it.

Just take a step back and think about it. What is it you're really trying to offer to (1) the muds, and (2) the players who are looking for muds?

Dulan · 02-17-2003, 08:32 PM

Brody: KaVir stated my point directly, instead of the roundabout manner in which I was trying to approach it.

Furthermore, if this was so important, why not just have Syn write a script to randomly display 1 MUD from the database on the front page? It's not difficult - I could likely do it myself - and it would have a better effect then what you are attempting to do.

-D

Brody · 02-17-2003, 09:14 PM

Dulan · 02-17-2003, 09:35 PM

Ah. I see. So, this is something that *you*, and only *you* must do.

My suggestions/points in my previous post were completely ignored - and are likely to work far better than your method.

Interesting. Motive?

-D

CSmith_Fan · 02-17-2003, 09:45 PM

You know..I've been sitting back and watching this thread go way out of hand since page 3 and all I can say is IMO (w/out pointing fingers) that some people are so dense and immature.

Who cares if Brody decides to maybe do something for someone for free? That a crime? Why are the few and far between so adamtly against it? Is it because Brody is pointing out MUDs that they dont belong on and have in a sense an envy problem?

Whatever it is..just drop the bickering and act your ages. If you dont think Brody is making the "perfect post" (which is impossible because any post, no matter how good, will always have someone disagree with whatever about it) or isnt adressing specific issues then fine...begin your own thread, post something similar at your own website, whatever but quit acting like a bunch of ignorant self centered morons with some moralistic gripe about how everything everyone else does is wrong and deal with it and get over it

Sheesh...

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02-17-2003, 12:43 PM	#41
Dulan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 354	Point 1: Brody himself has admitted that he has not played these MUDs. Point 2: Brody has not stated the reasoning why he advertises for these MUDs. Point 3: Human nature normally would dictate that people do something for something, not something for nothing. Now, let me get this straight. Brody is advertising for MUDs who he has never played, and just randomly picks. No review, no reason to check them out, just, "Their ranking sucks! Check them out!". There's got to be a reason he's doing this. Someone care to speculate? (And if someone spouts up with the "out of the goodness of his heart" garbage, wouldn't he actually bother to play the MUD and review it, rather then just pick something at random?) -D

02-17-2003, 01:24 PM	#42
John Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 252	Well I'm going to beat everyone to saying it, and say "so he gets good PR which will cause people to check out his mud" rolls his eyes Well I personally had no idea what mud he was on until it was said here. And really, does any ONE person have enough times to review these muds? How much time is a fair enough time? Some muds are hard to start, but are REAL good once you get into it.

02-17-2003, 01:33 PM	#43
Brody Legend Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: North Carolina Home MUD: OtherSpace Posts: 1,599

02-17-2003, 02:35 PM	#44
Dulan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 354	Ah. I see. So, it is to feed your own ego, as well as attain indirect advertising for your own projects then, Brody. You'll have to pardon me if I'm rather undernethused with your whole scheme - all of your "underdog"/"loser" MUDs have a chance to advertise on the front page, just the same as you do. They choose not to do it. You choose to do it. And, let me say this. I will never play any MUD that you've put on your precious underdog listing so far. I may not be the only one. Isn't that having the exact opposite effect you are hoping for? Or...could it be a potential intended effect? Who knows. If it is intended, Brody'd never admit it./ -D

02-17-2003, 02:42 PM	#45
Brody Legend Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: North Carolina Home MUD: OtherSpace Posts: 1,599	Uh. Right, Dulan. I don't already feed my ego with my columns or my games. I need to come to Top MUD Sites and mention other people's games in the hopes of somehow hornswaggling unsuspecting readers to my own games. It's all a one-man conspiracy. Thank you for pointing out the error in my ways. Look, I write plenty about my games - in separate topics. Whether you believe my motives or not is immaterial. That you find them suspect is unsurprising. That far more people appreciate what I'm doing than honk off on it keeps it alive. I'll gladly accept fan mail at from folks who are GLAD Dulan won't be showing up if I print their game's information.

02-17-2003, 02:45 PM	#46
Dulan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 354	Heh. Amusing, Brody. People who connect thie 'Dulan' persona to my actual, real gameplaying persona..-shake- Yare yare. However, that response of yours basically confirmed my gut feeling. You have an ulterior motive, and you are not doing this just to get some "underdog" MUD on the front page of TMS. While several previously stated hunches are partially correct, based on that reaction, none have directly hit the target yet. Someone else care to help me speculate on his true motives? I'm drawing blanks here. -D

02-17-2003, 02:52 PM	#47
Brody Legend Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: North Carolina Home MUD: OtherSpace Posts: 1,599

02-17-2003, 03:05 PM	#48
Dulan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 354	If you are going to PM me to do something, Brody, and then promptly shout out what it is..... Yare yare ^.^. -D, "Rhetorical? For real? Who knows!"

02-17-2003, 03:07 PM	#49
Brody Legend Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: North Carolina Home MUD: OtherSpace Posts: 1,599

02-17-2003, 03:09 PM	#50
Ytrewtsu Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 68	Ulterior motives? How about wanting to make the mud community more of a community? I personally don't see how any of the posts regarding the motives of Brody or the meaning of the word underdog have anything to do with advertising for players. Brody has posted per the guidelines of this forum but we have at least one forum moderator posting completely off topic? This is not a flame board so why not let the post be as it is in line with the guidelines set forth by Synozeer. Ytrewtsu

02-17-2003, 03:12 PM	#52
Brody Legend Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: North Carolina Home MUD: OtherSpace Posts: 1,599

02-17-2003, 03:13 PM	#53
Dulan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 354	Le sigh. Brody makes an obscure reference, and I follow up with another, and then he throws a ****y fit. Kawaii. No, really. Now, would someone care to seriously speculate on his real motives? -D

02-17-2003, 04:36 PM	#54
Noximist New Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 27

02-17-2003, 06:31 PM	#55
Alajha Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 49

02-17-2003, 06:52 PM	#56
KaVir Legend Join Date: Apr 2002 Name: Richard Home MUD: God Wars II Posts: 2,052	Brody, I don't care what you're posting, and I don't care why you're doing it. My points were never intended to be an attack on you, but rather to point out what I felt were discrepancies between what you said you were trying to do, and what you were actually achieving. You have said that you're doing this for the benefit of the lower-ranked muds, so I simply pointed out that - if that's really what you want to do - there are better ways to go about it. Just take a step back and think about it. What is it you're really trying to offer to (1) the muds, and (2) the players who are looking for muds?

02-17-2003, 08:32 PM	#57
Dulan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 354	Brody: KaVir stated my point directly, instead of the roundabout manner in which I was trying to approach it. Furthermore, if this was so important, why not just have Syn write a script to randomly display 1 MUD from the database on the front page? It's not difficult - I could likely do it myself - and it would have a better effect then what you are attempting to do. -D

02-17-2003, 09:14 PM	#58
Brody Legend Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: North Carolina Home MUD: OtherSpace Posts: 1,599

02-17-2003, 09:35 PM	#59
Dulan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 354	Ah. I see. So, this is something that you, and only you must do. My suggestions/points in my previous post were completely ignored - and are likely to work far better than your method. Interesting. Motive? -D

02-17-2003, 09:45 PM	#60
CSmith_Fan Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 90	You know..I've been sitting back and watching this thread go way out of hand since page 3 and all I can say is IMO (w/out pointing fingers) that some people are so dense and immature. Who cares if Brody decides to maybe do something for someone for free? That a crime? Why are the few and far between so adamtly against it? Is it because Brody is pointing out MUDs that they dont belong on and have in a sense an envy problem? Whatever it is..just drop the bickering and act your ages. If you dont think Brody is making the "perfect post" (which is impossible because any post, no matter how good, will always have someone disagree with whatever about it) or isnt adressing specific issues then fine...begin your own thread, post something similar at your own website, whatever but quit acting like a bunch of ignorant self centered morons with some moralistic gripe about how everything everyone else does is wrong and deal with it and get over it Sheesh...

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