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Old 05-28-2002, 05:24 PM   #1
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Old 05-28-2002, 10:39 PM   #2
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I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings.

Are you 9?

It was my opinion.  I'll stick with it.  You're entitled to your
opinion, whatever.  No need to go calling me the anti-christ
or the like.  I posted, what?  two posts?  Maybe three?
All in the same day?  Over a week ago?  I'd hardly call that
whining.  Maybe venting.  But it was done.  Heck I even saw
the movie again with a friend.  And though I picked it apart,
I did enjoy many aspects of the movie, howerver formula
they were.

As for not being able to use your force powers to attack?  I'd
consider LOPPING SOMEONE'S HEAD OFF (re: your hero Mace
v J. Fett) a bit more dark side turning than just buckling his
knees out from under him or smacking him upside the head
with a fallen droid skull.  

And I didn't alude at all to Jango being more powerful.  I just
happen to enjoy envisioning the idea of a SINGLE, SPECIAL
bounty hunter that could scrap with a Jedi and have a
chance of coming away from it.  The fact he gave Kenobi a
good tousle was vindication for me.  Not through power, but
through skill and cunning.  But hey, I prefer Batman to
Superman, any day.  The thought of Samuel Jackson
lumbering straight towards him and all he did was shoot his
little blaster seemed a bit... anti-climatic to me.  

Yes, Mace Windu was slow.  Watch the movie again.  They
were all slow compared to Ewan MacGregor, compared to
the battles of Ep 1.  And there was too much posturing at the
end of every scene of the mass battle sequence.   Sure, I'll
ADMIT I am being critical of this point.  But after waiting
twenty years to see a MASS lightsaber battle, I was expecting
something more than what I got.  I was expecting the fight
sequences to at least rival those of last movie.  Especially
given the hype of all the swordplay training that supposedly
went into the movie.

And maybe I have fallen out of "avid Star Wars fan" status.
Maybe I had misinterpretted what Luecas was trying to define
in his previous tales.  I thought there was "The Force".  And it
was something that could be used for good or not-good
consequences.  I thought that HOW you used the Force
attributed to whether it was defined as "The Dark Side".  Like
if I used it to 'shove' you right now to prove a point it wouldn't
be that big a deal.  But, if I mustered the rage you did in YOUR
post to shove you, I'd definitely be delving into the "Dark"
Side.  Like force lightning - electricity is electricity - it comes
from the ambient energy around us, life.  It is electricity - it
is neither good nor evil.

Sorry, I don't yield to the silly rpg "these are bad force
powers" beliefs, I'd err more on the side of philosophy.  Take
Force Lightning.  If I used it to jump start a speeder, is that
using the Dark Side?  Just like anything in life, it's not just
what you do - it is the intent behind it.  Whether I used the
Force to do it or my own two hands if I killed someone, it's
still bad mojo.  Think Ani put a few points on his Dark Side
Visa by chopping up some Tusken Raiders?  I'd reckon so,
even if he "just" used his lightsaber.

But hey, maybe I'm just mis-understanding Luecas' vision of
the Force.

I don't even remember if I posted this before.  Which would
seem more sensible to an honorable order such as the Jedi?
A speeder chase through the most congested city on the most
congested planet in the solar system, or using the force to
'hold' or disable the speeder while the assassin could be
apprehended?  If you were captured in a force field, wouldn't
you just disable it by shorting a wire in it's main conductor or
somesuch?

And as for why I'm so critical?  Because I don't think it was
well thought out.  Could I write better?  Depends who does
the reading more than my skill, I'd say.  Yes, I think I would
have thought things through a little more than the writer
seemed to have.  Some people might enjoy that.  Others
might not.  *shrug*  Its the pitfall of writing.

As for doing it myself?  Sure, why not?  I have a gazillion
dollars myself.  Maybe one day as a gag once I master Maya
I'll re-make the movie, post it online and pray I don't get
sued.  I'll see if I can fit it into my schedule next quarter.

Sorry, those are just my thoughts.  You don't have to agree
with them.  You don't have to read them.  You can enjoy the
movie, the way Luecas intended for it to be enjoyed by
you.  

Me, I just think there was potential for it to be lots better.
It's like the Ewoks and Jar Jar really weren't missing in the
movie, they were just sprinkled over every scene in spirit.

I can't believe I even replied to this.

Reply your flame, get your last words in - I'm done.  Thats all
I have to say.


**** EDITTED

Okay, to give credit where credit is due, did I mentioned I

_really_

(note the annoying underscore -AND- double newlines)

enjoyed the scene where Boba Fett picked up his father's
severed head and stared at it forlornly? I enjoyed that A LOT.
Very J Whedon moment. That was some good writing.
 
Old 05-29-2002, 12:51 AM   #3
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Blah blah blah.

Such obvious trolling doesn't deserve to be looked at, much less replied to.
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Old 05-29-2002, 01:50 AM   #4
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Old 05-29-2002, 02:28 AM   #5
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*Nah im 19*


Yes i know this is a pointless trival thing to whin about but it just kinda makes me mad that there can be so many fans of the time-less Science Fiction thriller, and then people just jump off the band wagon cause it does not meet there high-standerds of a flim. Yea i know where u are coming from, im not a starwars nerd (whatever that maybe) I just injoy starwars.

Yea looking back on Ep.1 you can see that the battles where more thought out and yes a bit faster but u got to think there was only what 2 battle in the whole movie, this one had at least 30, so u got to think that it would have took much longer and way more mulla from the ranch to make that same affect.

And yes I will be the first one to say that the storyline was not the well thought out master peice i was expecting, but it met some of my standerd. But u have to think that most of are hopes and greatness of ferse jedi renagades in battle came from books of other writers, lucas's enterprise just but there little stape on the thing. The clone wars that i knew from story where thousands of Mandolorian warriors marching from large-ships, and the jedi's out numbered,fastning them selfs to even the ods, and when i heard that there is no such thing as a mandolorian it kinda mad'nd me the hole mysteriusnes around Boba was gone ( and i agree with the hole jangos head cluched in bobas fist was apleaing, also the kick from Kenobi's boot that gave Bobas helmet that renoined dint )


And this hole thing about the force; The point i was trying to make was that it is easy to be drawen to the dark-side, this is why Yodo said in #5 that "u may use the force only for defence never for attack" the hole point u made about the cutting off jangos head with a saber was using the force for evil, well no it was not evil yea see u can as a jedi kill in defence the point yoda was making was that u can not use ur force powers like throwing, lightning or crushing people with objects, because then u get the sence of power and that u are better then everyone else, there for growing ever so close to the dark-side, u can kill with ur light-saber, ( and i know what u would say, that would'nt using ur saber with powers like quickness and such be useing ur powers well i guess so in a sence, but then what is jedi suppose to do let some one kill him, yea see im not a jedi or a huge huge fan, i have read like one or two books so really i dont know ethier, i just like debating. And the question u had about jump-starting your speeder with forse lighting; was it ok, ummmm i will have to get back to u on that one.


Im sorry for getting mad; i dont really care, i was just defending the movie cause i thought it was good, u dont have to agree, yea there are flaws and weekness's through-out the picture but i see past all of it, the battle sence where good to me, the story line ok, i give it a 9 out of 10 in my books, i think when u see 3 it will pull it all together for you.

Also i wrote this post to start a argument, so anyone what to fight some more?
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Old 05-29-2002, 11:47 PM   #6
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This isn't a Star Wars forum. It's ok to have a bit of chatter here and there, but this post was obviously an attempt to start a flame war. If you want to flame someone, keep it where it goes. Which is not here.
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