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Old 03-17-2005, 04:59 AM   #1
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Achaea implemented a comprehensive system of furniture for player houses today. You can find details in the following files:

Furniture Overview
Furniture Selection
Furniture Pricing
Furniture Commands
Furniture Decay

Enjoy! Expansions to the furniture system, which is already wildly popular, are being worked on even now.

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Old 03-17-2005, 12:11 PM   #2
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Very, very impressive.

Bring on the rocking chairs!
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I would like to know the reason for not being able to move or sell your furniture, or even give it to a friend...
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Old 03-18-2005, 10:52 PM   #4
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I noticed features like this were already being implemented in Imperian. Did you decide to put furniture in Achea during production of Imperian, or did the idea strike you after you observed furniture and its use in Imperian first?
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Old 03-19-2005, 11:25 AM   #5
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I noticed features like this were already being implemented in Imperian. †Did you decide to put furniture in Achea during production of Imperian, or did the idea strike you after you observed furniture and its use in Imperian first?
Naah, just one of those things we've wanted to put in for years and only recently got around to it. Some systems are kind of no-brainers if we have time to implement them.

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Old 03-19-2005, 04:55 PM   #6
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I would like to know the reason for not being able to move or sell your furniture, or even give it to a friend...  


Clearly this is another attempt by Logos to bilk people out of money. Everyone knows that you go through a process of moving things a little to each side and back again or against different walls when attempting to create a dwelling that reflects ones discerning taste.

Logos knows that persons with a refined sense of aesthetics will be forced to buy credits and sell some off for in game gold in order to purchase another dwelling and additional furniture to create an acceptable living environment rather than live in a house with a substandard use of space.

And think of the indignity one will be exposed to having to allow workmen into ones home to reupholster furniture when the fabrics and designs become passe simply because the pieces can not be removed.

Also, for as much as Logos is against the theft of intellectual property, he doesn't seem to have any compunction against stealing furniture design. He has clearly stolen or at least borrowed extremely heavily from Ethan Allen Furniture's colonial and early European period collections.

I am gaining an increased appreciation for the reasons why people find IRE an intolerable presence on these forums.
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:21 PM   #7
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I would like to know the reason for not being able to move or sell your furniture, or even give it to a friend...
Why would you need to give someone furniture?
Guy A: Happy Logosmas! Here's a chair!
Guy B: What? No clothes, or maybe a sword? Just the... The chair? Thanks... Now I can... Sit... On the battlefield...

But in all seriousness, you'd have to drop a lot of gold on a chair and just to give it to your friend is kind of a waste. A true MUD friend is one who doesn't always ask you for stuff of value for free all the time.
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:41 PM   #8
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And think of the indignity one will be exposed to having to allow workmen into ones home to reupholster furniture when the fabrics and designs become passe simply because the pieces can not be removed.
Well, we run the home decorators union so this is all part of our careful plot. More money for the workmen = more graft for IRE. In the rough and tumble business of text MUDs, unions just can't get away without paying protection money these days. I sometimes pine for the halcyon days of yore when drivebys and bombings weren't so much a part of MUDs.

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Also, for as much as Logos is against the theft of intellectual property, he doesn't seem to have any compunction against stealing furniture design. He has clearly stolen or at least borrowed extremely heavily from Ethan Allen Furniture's colonial and early European period collections.
*Peer* Get out of my head. We were joking about doing a deal with Ethan Allen to put Ethan Allen branded furniture into Achaea just 2 days ago!


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Just wait until we implement our system for window dressings. Then the outrage will really begin.

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Old 03-19-2005, 11:10 PM   #9
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Very, very impressive.

Bring on the rocking chairs!
Yeah, wow...

I mean, wow.

Furniture. I can hardly contain myself.
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Old 03-20-2005, 12:50 AM   #10
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You people are unbelieveable.
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Old 03-20-2005, 01:51 AM   #11
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Old 03-20-2005, 02:18 AM   #12
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Very, very impressive.

Bring on the rocking chairs!
Yeah, wow...

I mean, wow.

Furniture. I can hardly contain myself.
Sorry. But I enjoy Achaea very much, even to get all excitable over the little things like this - considering this is a change I have been waiting a couple of years for.

So, while you hardly contain yourself, I will jump for joy and thank Matt and Jay for making this gal's dreams come true. *wipes a happy tear*

In other words, bite me
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Sorry. But I enjoy Achaea very much, even to get all excitable over the little things like this - considering this is a change I have been waiting a couple of years for.
Don't be sorry.

MUDs have pushed the feature envelope for online games since their beginning.

With the exception of There/Second Life, MMOs are pathetic when it comes to things like furniture.

Cool features shouldn't be mocked. The nature of adding features to a game is that some people will love them, and some people won't really care. The idea is you add enough things so all your players find things interesting.
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Old 03-20-2005, 10:01 AM   #14
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Cool features shouldn't be mocked.
I'm not mocking the feature, just the overly dramatic reaction to something so mundane. I can hardly stifle my laughter at someone calling an implementation of furniture cool, much less "very, very impressive".

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MUDs have pushed the feature envelope for online games since their beginning.
You sound ridiculous. Furniture pushing the envelope?! The envelope must be pretty easy to push in that case.
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With the exception of There/Second Life, MMOs are pathetic when it comes to things like furniture.
Ahem:
eBay auction

When we start seeing auctions to buy a chair that fell over starting at $9 for Achaea, then maybe it has pushed the envelope into new and exciting territory in interior decorating.
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Cool features shouldn't be mocked.
I'm not mocking the feature, just the overly dramatic reaction to something so mundane. †I can hardly stifle my laughter at someone calling an implementation of furniture cool, much less "very, very impressive".

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You sound ridiculous. †Furniture pushing the envelope?! †The envelope must be pretty easy to push in that case.
Furniture is really nothing new or exciting or innovative in any way to MUDs. Any RPI MUD will have "furniture" objects.

I suppose not many H&S MUDs have them which might be the novelty of Achaea's furniture, but it's still not the first time something like that's been done.

On the whole, advertising it just seems to me a lot like an automobile company advertising that their cars now feature wheels.

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Hmm, some people here really are terribly negative. It's a nice new feature for Achaea, and I like the amethyst-encrusting option.

Not that Imperian's furniture isn't rather spiffy too, of course. But honestly, if you haven't got anything nice to say, it isn't really worth saying it, at least in this instance. If you really want to make a point, go invent something so you can go and announce it, rather than making pointless flames on someone else's work.
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But honestly, if you haven't got anything nice to say, it isn't really worth saying it, at least in this instance.
Sorry I obviously disagree. If completely unremarkable things like this are lauded as "impressive" and seen as "pushing the envelope", we are in some seriously bad shape. Pointing this out is hardly pointless.

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If you really want to make a point, go invent something so you can go and announce it, rather than making pointless flames on someone else's work.
I could do that, but it wouldn't be the point I'm trying to make. Generally an invention is something that isn't found all over the place. Wouldn't you agree?
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I don't particularly want to argue with you, as you seem to be intent on being negative. You are welcome to your own opinions, but if people like, enjoy or are impressed by the features new to Achaea, or indeed any MUD, they have every right to be.

Attempting to detract from a harmless source of enjoyment is not particularly useful or productive. The reaction of most of Achaea is that the new feature is cool, and they approve of it. And incidently, as Achaea previously did not have this, it is a new invention as far as it's concerned.
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With the exception of There/Second Life, MMOs are pathetic when it comes to things like furniture.
Ahem:
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When we start seeing auctions to buy a chair that fell over starting at $9 for Achaea, then maybe it has pushed the envelope into new and exciting territory in interior decorating.
That's funny. "These chairs are SUPER RARE! The fallen over chairs! Be the first one on your block to have a broken chair! Make your neighbors think you're a fat cow! Only 9$!"
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