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Old 05-01-2002, 12:16 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by (Dulan @ May 01 2002,02:11 am)
You, and Seth both have obviously not learned basic lessons of courtesy in pre-school. Nor have you learned to respect other people - much less their opinion. I have seem accusations of being a "child" from Seth. But, that was not what irritated me. What was was some newbie to the forums logging on, and promptly using wannabe-speak to address me.

"Compensation" is a psychological term. Do either you or Seth knows what it refers to? Very well, I shall explain. You attempt to compensate for something you perceive as a critical lack IRL - height, weight, nonexistant sex life, what have you - and promptly project the hatred of your own self onto another person. Or you compensate in a manner that makes you feel like a "big man". In this case, it can be considered to be expressed in the manner referred to as "spamming". Based on your reaction Xanferious, I'd say that this is a very good understanding of you.

As for you, Seth, all of what I said to Xanferious applied. And more. Your constant lusting after of females for netsex. It is a simple psychological issue, again. You use sex as a way to express repressed pain, anger, what have you. You use that as an outlet for issues that you have no outlet for. I will refrain from commenting further, for fear of offending people I respect on here.

And before you comment, 'Fex - This was not a flame. It was nowhere near a flame. It was merely expressing a minor irritation on the two resident spammers.

-D
What do you base this upon? Upon your own single experiences? Maybe you ought to realize that you are not the only person in the world that matters, but allot of people do. Henceforth, neither Xanferious or me are lacking "basic lessons of courtesy". Both of us are just the center of attention of an egomaniac who believes that as soon as anyone doesn't like him, the other person is a social failure. And yes, I am refering to you, my dense little egomaniac forum-dweller.

And what do you happen to know about Xanferious' or my personal life then? I'm really quite sure you know nothing about it, so hence why your conclusions about us lacking certain thing IRL are null and void and will be dismissed as random utterings by a egomaniacal person who suffers clearly from an "illusion grandeur". Perhaps your personal attacks on both of us all of the sudden are merely to "compensate" for your own lack in these various areas?

As for me constantly lusting for netsex, do you even realize how much you are making yourself look like a moron right now? Yes, I realize I'm a horrible flirt and I think no one here of the female population on these forums is really offended by me being a flirt. If they are, which is quite possible, they should tell me and I'll apologize to said person with all honesty and stop with the innocent flirting. Perhaps the fault is not with me, but with yourself. After all, using your own psychological babble, your insults about me aiming for cybersex are just to "compensate" for your own inability to talk with people of the opposite gender. The rest of your pseudo-psychological babble will be dismissed, once again, as the ramblings of a man with an ego the size of Wales.

The last bit is supposed to be funny isn't it? You either got a very weird and uncommon sense of humor, or you are just as dense as Mr. Bush Junior. Also, please stop refering to Xanferious and myself as the same people, thank you. I'm sure someone with your pseudo-psychological "intellect" realizes that we are both very different people, who live at very different locations on this planet.

Finally, I'd like to take this oppurtunity to tell you that, dispite your own believes, the world does NOT revolve around you. Xanferious and I are not social misfits, merely because we do not fit in your perfect ideology of forum-posters. Neither do we compensate ourselves for a RL lack by spamming on these forums. In fact, the only real danger on these forums is from people with a closed mind, who aren't capable of accepting new ideas, new things or anything other then the things they define as standard. These kind of people usually punish other people out of fear that their ideal little fantasy world is disrupted. 64 years ago such a person was called Adolf Hitler. Nowadays, we have Dulan on these boards, spreading his wicked ideological ideas around and claiming to be the messiahs. I rest my case, you bitter little proletarian.

Go on, be predictable and amuse me, puppet.
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Old 05-01-2002, 04:45 PM   #42
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rrreow!!! hiss! geez people! if spam bugs you so much D, then ignore it! but it's a hell of a lot more interesting than your "pshcyological compensation" bull ####!

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Old 05-01-2002, 11:04 PM   #43
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damn Seth, That was deep...
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Old 05-02-2002, 02:24 AM   #44
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Meinh.

Here's my only comment, Sethie-poo: Check out the 'Me too!' thread.

If my word isn't enough, maybe theirs will convince you. Even Unifex has stated that you spam, and he is about the most unbiased, most refusing to choose a fscking side person I've met.

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Old 05-02-2002, 06:08 AM   #45
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*Wipes his brow after reading that whole list of posts, then prepares to speak*

Ahem. Firstly, I will quote for you the definition of spam, as presented in the SMAUG codebase:

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Spam is the repeated use of a phrase,command, or channel that causes screen scroll for others. ANYTHING that causes excessive or irritating screen scroll can be considered spam.
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1. <messaging> (From Hormel's Spiced Ham, via the Monty Python "Spam" song) To post irrelevant or inappropriate messages to one or more Usenet newsgroups, mailing lists, or other messaging system in deliberate or accidental violation of netiquette.

3. (Apparently a generalisation of sense 2, above) To abuse any network service or tool by for promotional purposes.

5. <chat, games> (A narrowing of sense 1, above) To flood any chat forum or Internet game with purposefully annoying text or macros. Compare Scrolling.
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<chat,games> To flood a chat room or Internet game with text or macros in an attempt to annoy the occupants. This can often cause the chat room to be "uninhabitable" due to the "noise" created by the scroller. Compare spam.
Xaniferous, I've seen several 'heh...' posts from you. I honestly don't give a damn if you find something funny, or not... unless you can elaborate on it. If you have something more to say than something the quality of 'me too' or 'heh... cool', then say it. I'd love to hear it. If all you have to say is 'heh...' or 'that's funny', then I feel that I should be given a 'spam disrespectful twit for repeated abuse of forums' button to fill your e-mail with messages ranging from the number 1, to whatever number I feel to be appropriate for your complete lack of ANY respect of the other people on these forums.

Your posts increase the amount of code on a page, as well as graphical load on their system. Not everyone has access to high speed connections to save them from your inane posts. Don't EVER try to say you respect the people here. You don't. It's one thing if your posts have a purpose, and aren't simply repeats... but, I think that's enough on the subject. And, as I've had to tell Ingham many times before... that was no flame, that is merely my opinion.

As for the issue of netsex and cyber-lusting, on the part of Seth/Ingham. *shrug* Boys will be boys. He could, of course, find a better place to do it... such as using the private message system (built into this forum). So yes that, as well, would constitute spam. Though, on occasion, I have gleaned a BIT of a laugh from it, so I find it less offensive than the blatherskyte posts by Xaniferous.

Seth, on the issue of courtesy:

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Maybe you ought to realize that you are not the only person in the world that matters, but allot of people do. Henceforth, neither Xanferious or me are lacking "basic lessons of courtesy".
Maybe you ought to realize the same. If you spam, you are essentially telling everyone else that they don't matter. Do you stop to consider that they may be on a dial-up connection? It's one thing to post genuine messages with a purpose. It's another entirely to post drivel, which will make it harder on others to get the content WORTH seeing. Sorry, but your statement, to me, only shows your hypocrisy.

On the issue of lacking those basic lessons, I would have to say that it is an affirmative that you are lacking those lessons. If you had learned those lessons you would not have made the statment that someone ELSE needs to learn that others matter... but, that's just my opinion, I suppose. Again, I find myself having to restate that I'm not flaming you.

Shao_long, I will simply pretend I didn't see you say that one word posts have more meaning than the relatively longer posts, simply because that would have to be the most incredible (in that I find it not to hold any credibility) thing I've ever seen posted in the whole time I've been on the net. Well, aside from the guy who claimed he was God (Sallog, or something like that), that he copyrighted his name, and that he forced the courts to recognize him as GOD or GOD ALMIGHTY. That, I believe is SLIGHTLY more incredible than what you said... but only by a bit.
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Old 05-02-2002, 07:02 AM   #46
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I've been spamming a little bit on these forums because I was one of the longest registered members on the old forum and I kind of miss my posts...

I suppose I could get all my posts back the normal way, by posting on serious threads with usefull replies that will hopefully help/convince/enlighten someone, but this certainly is fast, and more fun for a bit
Well, if this isn't a confession to childishness, I don't know what would be.

Getting rid of the post count and ratings seems to be a definite way of improving the overall quality of the discussions here, despite some people claiming they don't spam for the post count.

Which leaves me wondering why they would bother making asses of themselves in the first place.

*shrug* It's not like the MUDding world was devoid of immature egocentrics, though.
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Old 05-02-2002, 08:40 AM   #47
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Orion Elder,

you have a valid point, but I don't think I used the heh to bump up any posts in here , I know I did it in the old forums and which my threads where locked for that. I will *try* not to bump up my threads unless I do have something useful to add into searching for staff but as for anyother threads I don't relay like to type a 2-4 paragraph statement. Some people think that all I am concerned about is my post count and stars
I have talked to snoz about this, I asked him if he could remove it from my account but it cant be done I don't care about stars or post counts.
As for the graphic load IM on a 56k. and once you d/l any images once they get put into your cashe for future loading and it doesn't take more then a few seconds to load.
Yes, I do respect *some* people here, like yourself that can talk in a mature manner about this topic.
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Old 05-02-2002, 08:44 AM   #48
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I gotta agree with Shao_long here, even if virtual shouting hurts my ears. (Comment to those unfamiliar with 'netiquette': Using all caps is usually interpreated as screaming at people).

I am no great fan of spam myself, but this thread was obviously started as a joke. So howabout everybody chill down a bit, try to apply some humour, and save the flame-throwers for some topic really worth the flames?
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Old 05-02-2002, 09:03 AM   #49
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As for the issue of netsex and cyber-lusting, on the part of Seth/Ingham. *shrug* Boys will be boys. He could, of course, find a better place to do it... such as using the private message system (built into this forum). So yes that, as well, would constitute spam. Though, on occasion, I have gleaned a BIT of a laugh from it, so I find it less offensive than the blatherskyte posts by Xaniferous.
Orion, here we go again.... :)

I will once again repeat, that I am NOT after netsex/mudsex/cybersex or any of that whatsoever. Why do you people think that? I mean like, come on.... Like I already said, I'm a hopeless flirt, but an innocent flirt for that matter. I am NOT trying to get in any girl's knickers on these forums.

But my flirting is not the issue here to start with. If you feel the need to discuss it, I invite you to PM me and we'll settle it that way.

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Maybe you ought to realize the same. If you spam, you are essentially telling everyone else that they don't matter. Do you stop to consider that they may be on a dial-up connection? It's one thing to post genuine messages with a purpose. It's another entirely to post drivel, which will make it harder on others to get the content WORTH seeing. Sorry, but your statement, to me, only shows your hypocrisy.
In a way, you are right. However, I do not post allot of messages on here to disrespect others. I merely post allot in the "General" section of these forums. If I have something to add to a more serious discussion, then I will post it. However, I try not to flood those forums with useless messages. Secondly, unlike others, I do not usually 'do' one word replies. I know that's not what you are talking about right now, but still, allot of people seem to think I do.

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On the issue of lacking those basic lessons, I would have to say that it is an affirmative that you are lacking those lessons. If you had learned those lessons you would not have made the statment that someone ELSE needs to learn that others matter... but, that's just my opinion, I suppose. Again, I find myself having to restate that I'm not flaming you.
Well, pointing out failures in a person isn't the nicest things to do anyways. Besides, I think my post to Dulan over here already contained more then enough examples of how Dulan lacked in several fields? Maybe I didn't exactly used that one line as a basis of my post, but surely that you could find the idea that Dulan is lacking those "basic lessons" out of my post?

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Getting rid of the post count and ratings seems to be a definite way of improving the overall quality of the discussions here, despite some people claiming they don't spam for the post count.
I don't think that removing post counts or rating will stop me from posting lots of innocent messages in the no-so-serious forums. My post could could be reset right now right here to 1 for all I care. That doesn't stop me from having fun on these forums with people I like, does it?
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Old 05-02-2002, 09:08 AM   #50
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On another note, how do I delete my own posts?
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Old 05-02-2002, 02:02 PM   #51
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HEY PEOPLE ARE YOU ALL SERIOUS ABOUT IT ??

oh man..I thought more of you,then such stupid petty insults..

Yes,I SPAM.Yes,I post short replies like 'wow..that kinda cool' or 'hey I like it'

Yes,I think this is fun.

Hey people,I always thought 'Tavern of blue hand' is the place to SPAM !

And,hey,if you got problems with it - say the word,and you'll wont see me again.

Just get more votes to get rid of me then to ask me to stay,ok ? we're democratic here.

btw : could people voting for me to stay type in their names ?
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by the way,what do you call 'quality of discussions'?

As for me,chatting in the way we do now is really fun
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Some threads require or illicit one word responses. Those aren't the ones I'm talking about. I'm talking about pointless, count-bumbing, blatherskyte like 'heh...' or 'that's cool.' If they specifically asked, 'Do you think this is cool?' then in turn a response such as 'Yes.' or 'No.' would then be warranted... sure, we might want more elaboration, but such a post WOULD be warranted.

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Come in, have a drink! The place to post about anything, as long as it doesn't belong in one of the other forums.
Now, I don't know about you, but I don't see the word 'SPAM' anywhere in that. I see 'post about anything.' Which, to me, conveys post a meaningful post with a purpose, rather than something that does nothing more than add another number to that ticker so many of you SEEM to be trying to make look like the speedometer from the Bugs Bunny and Gremlin cartoon.

Now, as for my other post, if you considered that a 'stupid' and 'petty' insult... not much I can do about that. *shrug* Though, I don't see how telling you that spamming the hell out of people isn't nice is a stupid and petty insult.
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hey !!!! now thats really really weird !!!!

Does simple talking and having fun means nothing for you ??
Hey..we're having fun here..And you say we should not !
Isnt its WEIRD,to say at least ?
I always thought that having fun is not a crime !
well..anyways..I'll be spamming till my ban anyways..
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wtf? you guys desperately need to turn off your little testosterone faucets and CHILL!!! if you don't want to read meaningless posts, then don't go into the general section! i mean, "post anything" doesn't say DON'T SPAM either orion, and i agree with shao on the topic of the fun content. besides, it is your choice on which part of the forums you go to, it's not like you're forced to read any of the spam anyways! so a there's a "heh" here or there, is it that big of a deal? "post anything" seems to imply that we decide what we post, so !

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WoooHooo !!! Tremble in fear Orion,as my personal Spamming Corps is coming for you !
We will crush all opposition,and if you'll be fighting on our ground,we will destroy you completely,and then we will come and take OVER ALL THE FORUM! !!!

Praise the Spam !

*Ponders,should he draw his flamethrower again ?*
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YEA!!!! PRAISE THE SPAM!

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Actually, when these half-wits decide to post their 'heh...' and posts of the caliber, in a discussion in which I find some interest, I AM forced to download it.

No one said, don't have fun. But, if you find posting post, on top of post, with no content whatsoever FUN... well, suffice it to say that I question your definition of fun.

Furthermore, it has nothing to do with testosterone. It has to do with common decency and respect, something that those who spam others lack.

If you want to have fun, feel free. If you want to spam, go elsewhere. I, of course, am not the moderator or even the owner, so the above is simply my opinion... but it seems to be an opinion echoed by many.

I, personally, would like to see the post-bumping, spam-forcing little twits banned from this forum... not just this sub-section. Seems like about two weeks to two months ago a bunch of half-wit newbie nimrods flooded the forum and started posting anything their heart desired including advertising MUDs in every sub-section possible and posting responses that are of no use to ANYONE except to bump the poster's post count, among other things. Sorry, but there is a difference between fun and spam. If you think spam is fun, go to the MUD Connector forums. They get spammed on a daily basis. If you want quality posts where you don't come on to see a hundred posts in a day from some gimp who happened to have a hankering to type a lot of one word posts, simply because he or she has nothing better to do, stay here.
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oh PLEASE!!!! i think that the quality of the posts is sort of an opinion thing! i mean, me and shao and seth and xanf seem to like it, so it's not all about your views! besides, we're not spamming ads, and if you don't like us, maybe YOU should go elsewhere

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oh PLEASE!!!! i think that the quality of the posts is sort of an opinion thing! i mean, me and shao and seth and xanf seem to like it, so it's not all about your views! besides, we're not spamming ads, and if you don't like us, maybe YOU should go elsewhere

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I am always continually amazed at how people will progress with their own desires regardless of how many other people they need to trample upon.

I think what has been lost in this discussion is that most people are under the impression that these boards are to be used for MUD related topics, with the occasional tangent thread here and there. However, a discussion about a MUD related topic is no longer the norm anymore. Instead, we have random posts about anything that have NOTHING to do with MUDS. What happens then, is that topmudsites becomes irrelevant to the MUD community because serious MUDDERS will not waddle through all the crap to find the few serious topics.

There are plenty of forums to diddle yourselves with delight while spamming everyone into oblivion. However, some of the people here have kindly asked you to refrain from doing so here. TMS is designed to be a place where people can discuss MUDS, not how much you love to post.

So, out of curtesy for your fellow posters, maybe you can find it in your hearts to refrain from the spamming.
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