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Old 05-06-2002, 06:55 PM   #61
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just thought I'd drop my 2cc

guys, please, this is not so good for everyone, the "anti-spammer" group flaming the "spammer" group and viceversa, this is only becoming more and more boring.

1- the anti-spam group is right, people should stop spamming, makes reading more confortable.
2-the spam group is right that the actions taken were way too hard.
seem's everyone has a point, so why not handshake and make up?.

I personally think spam is bad, but spam could be treated in a better way(perhaps making spam.com? hmm....)

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Old 05-06-2002, 07:33 PM   #62
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Mia: My definition of spam remains the same, and has not changed.

I rarely post any "me too!" posts that are comprised entirely of one word, or one line. That is what I was flaming, and a large part of the boards were flaming.

Ruobhe: Sure. I'll give up my flaming when the spam group (Xanferious, Ingham/Seth, and Shao_Long) admit that they have spammed, apologize for it, and promise not to do it again. Note that Likita is not part of that group now - Likita did that. If Likita did that, I am sure the spammer group can easily do it as well.

-D
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Old 05-06-2002, 09:28 PM   #63
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dulan, did you not read my post?!?!? just because i apologized doesn't mean i'm any different than the other guys, i just was tired of hearing all the ####. and you can fix the shao problem, like i said... and i do believe that spamming is defined (partially) as saying the same thing over and over....? well, look who's guilty of that.

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Old 05-06-2002, 09:55 PM   #64
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Spammings definition varies, Likita.

As for the rest - You apologized. You are far different then that little group of spammers. You actually have the maturity to realize when you are wrong, and are able to apologize for it.

Am I "spamming"? By most definitions, no. However, there are a few definitions that are wide enough that would imply that I spam. But, those definitions would also imply that a large part of the posters on this thread and other threads, including Orion, Molly, Threshold, etc., spams. And that does not happen. Simply because I am more vocal about being anti-spam does not make me a spammer by any means. Unless, of course, you use said wide definitions - and if you do, accuse everyone involved of spamming, not just one person.

-D
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Old 05-06-2002, 10:42 PM   #65
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If these were PHP based forums I'd persoanlly code in an "ignore Dulan" function and turn it on for everyone by default... God, you're dull.
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Old 05-06-2002, 11:02 PM   #66
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Being "dull" is vastly better than being a spammer, by any measurement, Ingham.

Or must I explain the simple concept of common courtesy to your fellow posters to you?

-D
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Old 05-07-2002, 08:15 AM   #67
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Originally Posted by (Dulan @ May 07 2002,04:02 am)
Being "dull" is vastly better than being a spammer, by any measurement, Ingham.

Or must I explain the simple concept of common courtesy to your fellow posters to you?

-D
Too bad you're both then. And no thanks, I have common courtesy to my fellow posters

Like respecting their opinions, listening to their points, trying to understand their points and their views and if possible, to give helpful advice or ask questions whose answers are of use to everyone. You know, all the stuff you don't...
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Old 05-07-2002, 09:35 AM   #68
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Listen,Dulan,listen carefully,Im SO hellishly bored of repeating myself,but I'll do it again.

I HAVE apologized before TMS community already.Long ago.But,these apologies are not for you.You are worse then any spammer with your endless crusade against it.Im tend to think you're either HELLISHLY bored,and trying to find fun in flaming,or you're HELLISHLY stupid and thinking that someone could be interested in your petty insults and constant repeats of same insults.I'm tend to think that most people would find our 'spam' much much funnier and interesting that your flaming.At least thats what I think.Wanna make a poll abouth that ?

btw,have you noticed that nobody already supports you ? or you're just too obsessed with anti-spaming campaign ?

PS.why you keep calling Seth Ingham ? I think his name is written very clearly...


(ugh-huh..My ultra-powerful XRS-3000 flamethrower is kinda overheating..better cut the flames,i suppose )
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Old 05-07-2002, 10:20 AM   #69
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Sorry, Dulan, but I think that Mia is right.
There is a point where repetitive messages start becoming spam. In my opinion you passed that point long ago, and are now not a bit better than the people you are flaming.

Also, the initial spam had at least some attempt at humour in it, until you barged in with the hatchet and axe. There is not even the slightest humour, tolerance or even detachment in what you are doing. You could at least have tried to explain the unwritten rules of the board to an obvious newcomer in a reasonably polite manner, (as some other people did). Instead you were quite unnecessarily rude and offensive, and that flame of yours triggered about 95% of the ensuing spam.

Shao_Long, I had some initial sympathy for you, but you are wearing it out fast now. The fact that Dulan is acting equally silly is really no excuse. If you are not going to apologise, at least - for your own sake and that of the community - try not to respond to any more of his posts. All that can be said in this matter has already been said, and way too many times too.
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Old 05-07-2002, 10:43 AM   #70
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Question

Now that we're down to 2 or 3 people still posting to this little flame war, you guys can use that nifty Messenger thing that Syn provided us with, and save the rest of us the spam. Thank you much.
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Old 05-07-2002, 12:56 PM   #71
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Originally Posted by (Wik @ May 07 2002,3:43 pm)
Now that we're down to 2 or 3 people still posting to this little flame war, you guys can use that nifty Messenger thing that Syn provided us with, and save the rest of us the spam. Thank you much.
Awww, but I enjoy trolling Dulan just for the sake of it He's so funny and predictable, thus and ideal target! He takes everything so personal that flaming him is just FUN again! The last time I had so much fun flaming someone was an attention-whore on the Planetarion forums...
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Old 05-08-2002, 07:53 AM   #72
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Originally Posted by (Dulan @ May 06 2002,6:33 pm)
Mia: My definition of spam remains the same, and has not changed.

I rarely post any "me too!" posts that are comprised entirely of one word, or one line. That is what I was flaming, and a large part of the boards were flaming.

Ruobhe: Sure. I'll give up my flaming when the spam group (Xanferious, Ingham/Seth, and Shao_Long) admit that they have spammed, apologize for it, and promise not to do it again. Note that Likita is not part of that group now - Likita did that. If Likita did that, I am sure the spammer group can easily do it as well.

-D
i admit to nothing, i dont spam
i promise to do nothing...
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Old 05-08-2002, 07:52 PM   #73
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Good. Xanferious, I am holding you to your promise to do nothing. YAY! He promised to do nothing... and since spamming is doing SOMETHING, he isn't going to spam anymore!
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Old 05-08-2002, 10:19 PM   #74
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sorry to burst your ego there but i dont spam
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Old 05-08-2002, 10:33 PM   #75
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-glances at the thread-

Interesting, Xanferious. You just gave your word, and promptly broke it. Are you so lacking of ethical character, so morally bankrupt, you would promise to do something, and then break that promise THREE HOURS later? Amazing. My estimation of you somehow has managed to go even lower than it was.

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Old 05-08-2002, 10:47 PM   #76
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-glances at the thread-

Interesting, Xanferious. You just gave your word, and promptly broke it. Are you so lacking of ethical character, so morally bankrupt, you would promise to do something, and then break that promise THREE HOURS later? Amazing. My estimation of you somehow has managed to go even lower than it was.

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Old 05-08-2002, 11:09 PM   #77
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if u even read the post and what i was refering to, er wait! you cant understand jack S**t, my mistake.
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Old 05-08-2002, 11:12 PM   #78
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Xanf, Seth, you both realize that Orion is a moderator of this forum? And that what he sees goes, not what you meant?

Oh dear? Now, Xanferious, do nothing as you promised to do.

-D
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Old 05-08-2002, 11:15 PM   #79
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Quote:
Originally Posted by (Dulan @ May 08 2002,10:12 pm)
Xanf, Seth, you both realize that Orion is a moderator of this forum? And that what he sees goes, not what you meant?

Oh dear? Now, Xanferious, do nothing as you promised to do.

-D
dude ure dumber then a door knob, if you only had some form of an IQ you would understand alot more, you complain about the me too posts and yet you do it. and if something you cant handle you hide behind a admin...
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Old 05-09-2002, 12:04 AM   #80
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So many of you kept saying that the mod's never said drop it etc. Well, the moderator of this forum is telling you to drop it or take it elsewhere.

Xanferious you spam... regardless of what you may think, or how you may feel, you spam. Period. You post material that provides no actual content to a thread (read the definition of spam in the Laws of the Tavern post), aside from possibly making you feel as though you've been justified... and that is spam. S-P-A-M, say it with me now... spam.

Now, as for the degeneration of posts into flame wars, I don't want to see it anymore. If you absolutely must taunt someone keep it in the [FLAME] thread. I'll create it in a few minutes... you can post all your taunts there and everyone can damn well avoid it if they want... instead of having to see all your pointless attacks on one another ruin the REST of the threads here...

As long as you stay on the topic of posts in which you're posting, we should all get along just fine. Deal? Good.
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