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Old 08-04-2002, 07:53 PM   #21
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I agree with Orion.  You three are only the most recent of spammers.  No one really cares why you do it, just the fact you do and need to stop.  Although racism, sexism and general hate does not warrant a return in my mind, no one needs to be around that.

Like Orion, short of replying to discussion envolving Orion and Brody, myself and others become discouraged with the direction of many of the conversations and short of reading what is there, do nothing more and possibly limit thier viewing of this site entirely.

Spamming discourages new viewers and then turns a site into a flaming, spiraling heap falling into Hell.  I would rather just utilize the forums at MudWorld since there is some actual control there.  Abusers should apologize to Synozeer and the forum managers for making thier jobs so much harder!
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Old 08-04-2002, 07:56 PM   #22
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This all sounds so familiar. Someone does something to rile everyone up, drive them away, and then they want to come back a few months later like nothing happened. I stopped lurking here around that time precisely because of all the spam that was being generated. These guys left, and everything became nice and pleasant and peaceful again. Now they show up, and are immediately tossing around accusations of flaming and stuff. If this is how it's going to be again, I'll just leave and go hang out on Mudplanet or my own forums. At least there I won't have to put up with spammers.

On a related note to the other topic about giving "banned" players a second, third, foruth, etc chance, I say if you gave them a second chance and they came back and were playing by the rules etc, cool. But if they come back and violat the rules, cause trouble, whatever, then they should get tossed out never to return. Actions have consequences and it seems today's generation just refuses to accept this.

I had a similar situation with a client of mine. He signed up for hosting service a few months ago, and every month he'd be a little bit later and later with his payment. Every month I'd threaten to cancel him, or even go so far as to lockout his account. He'd then send his money in. This time around, he's over a month late, never responds to the emails, so I finally had enough and cancelled him and purged his account. I was far too lenient with him it seems. He now expects me, after more than a month, to reinstate him and act like nothing happened. Well, I'm sorry, but this time is the last time. I can't be dealing with his kind of stress.

So Shao, Likita, whoever else it was, if you're here to post, post. But keep it civil, lose the spam, and perhaps you'll be forgiven. Keep spamming, flaming, ****ing people off, and you'll probably find everyone wants to permban you. It's your call.
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Old 08-04-2002, 08:16 PM   #23
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Ingham
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You've shown yourself to be a bigot, a racist, an idiot, and a person worthy of any contempt and hatred you garner. Your opinions are worth about as much as the dung stuck to my bootheel.
If you judge people merely by words typed out in an online forum, how on earth do you expect others to interpret this? The very least one can do is show some respect and resort to the past when nescesarry. I don't recall insulting anyone on here lately, nor do I recall spamming the forums.

Your post is clearly hypocritic, calling me names and worthy of hatred, while I am clearly not the offending party here. Your hatred and biased views of other are wrong Orion. By saying those things you yourself aren't better then what you are saying I am.

Now, if we can get past the childish "I'm not going to like you and never will!" bits, I'm very much willing to initiate an PM/Email dialogue that would stop this silliness. Just take these online forums less serious. These forums are not worth the hate and bile that's being thrown back and forth.
 
Old 08-05-2002, 12:58 AM   #24
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You tried to give advice on how to be 'brotherly' to others. I simply wanted to point out how absolutely ASININE that is, considering the source.

As for judging you... online forum... text based... judging you by your words... yeah, seems about right to me. COME ON! How the hell do you expect me to judge you? The only way to judge someone online is by their actions... you've shown yourself to be a spammer, a racist, a bigot, and an idiot. I have no respect for you, or anything you have to say on the subject of 'what is and isn't nice.'

The hypocrit calling someone a hypocrit, again is quite asinine. If you'd like to be a useful and contributing member, feel free. If you only came back to be a waste of space and start more arguments, I'm sure we'd all rather see you gone.

As for my statements, I stated the truth, pure and simple. A racist, bigotted, spamming, idiotic person has no right to be preaching to anyone about what is or is not right. Once you learn that, we'll all be able to get a long a bit better.
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Old 08-05-2002, 08:40 PM   #25
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You tried to give advice on how to be 'brotherly' to others. I simply wanted to point out how absolutely ASININE that is, considering the source.

As for judging you... online forum... text based... judging you by your words... yeah, seems about right to me. COME ON! How the hell do you expect me to judge you? The only way to judge someone online is by their actions... you've shown yourself to be a spammer, a racist, a bigot, and an idiot. I have no respect for you, or anything you have to say on the subject of 'what is and isn't nice.'

The hypocrit calling someone a hypocrit, again is quite asinine. If you'd like to be a useful and contributing member, feel free. If you only came back to be a waste of space and start more arguments, I'm sure we'd all rather see you gone.

As for my statements, I stated the truth, pure and simple. A racist, bigotted, spamming, idiotic person has no right to be preaching to anyone about what is or is not right. Once you learn that, we'll all be able to get a long a bit better.
Simple, empty words from an unknown person who does not know me one bit do not hurt me, nor affect me nor make me think twice. I'll just ignore you and your insults from now on.

However you feel like talking to me in a reasonable way without namecalling, feel free to message me and I'm sure that if we both behave our ages we can get this silly thing over with.
 
Old 08-06-2002, 02:18 PM   #26
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Mmm.

Glancing at this thread, I figure I might as well chip in with my 2 cents. I've refrained from commenting untill now.

Ingham: You, sir, are a twink. Now, go to wherever it is that twinks go, and leave us who do not spam be.

Shao: You are a spammer. You still remain a spammer (You have more then twice the posts of the most-posting non-spammer of the boards) even after all this time. You, as well, are a twink. Leave us be, for all that is good and holy in this world.

Likita: I agree entirely with Robbert. See my comments on Shao - just because you took a "time-out" and promise to obey the rules a bit better this time around does not mean that most of us will want to see your face.

Personally, I think all 3 of you should leave these boards for eternity if you are not going to bother to straighten up. You act like small children, for crissake. Take a cue from Seth - leave the contributors be, and go find a BB that actually wants your spammage crap. This community does not want your spam.

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Old 08-06-2002, 02:29 PM   #27
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mm... 'sir' Dulan.. you call me a 'spammer' ..
now, maybe I was, maybe I wasnt.. but, show me any of my 'spam' which's more recent then a month or two ?.. well, good luck looking for it, it shoulda take you some time, I think...
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Old 08-06-2002, 02:55 PM   #28
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I rarely post in FLAME-like threads such as this... but I feel compelled to do so this time.

If you read the entire thread as I just did. You ALL are flaming each other. A reasonable question was asked and it became a flame thread yet again.

I am finding less and less enjoyment from these threads when even the moderators joins in the fray and resorts to Flames in the thread.

Maybe, you all should sit back and take a deep breath and get on with life.  Orion, letting these guys get under your skins makes you about as immature as you are claiming they are. As a poster in these forums who only posts when I have something worthwhile to contribute, I find the actions of all you pitiful.

Just my opinion, but life is too short to keep this crap up.
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Old 08-06-2002, 07:59 PM   #29
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Brianna is dead right, it seems most posters are taking Likitha's rather innocent post as an excuse to flame her and each other. Pretty much the same thing that happened last time too, as far as I can remember.

And another thing; is it really polite to Synozer to use this thread as an excuse for promoting other Discussion Forums, like a couple of posters did?
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Old 08-06-2002, 10:47 PM   #30
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On the contrary, I do not think I flamed anyone. I merely said it was people such as likita who drove me, and many other people, away from TMS because of how spammy and utterly-without-content the boards became. Only recently have we have more content than spam, and should the spam outweight the content again, I think TMS would lose more posters than before.
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Old 08-07-2002, 02:40 AM   #31
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Brianna:
If someone asks if they can come back, is it flaming if they get highly negative responses? I don't think so. Telling someone your opinion, when they ask a question that requires or even questions that opinion, is not flaming.

As for my dislike of Ingham, he has proven himself to be racist and bigotted, and in doing so he personally insulted my dead grandfather. I have no respect for him, nor will I ever... and the fact that he tried to give advice on how people should be treated strikes me as the most asinine thing I've ever seen. If my showing my dislike of someone who insulted a deceased member of my family makes me immature, so be it.

So far the only flames I've seen in this post are my remarks to Ingham... and even those weren't so much flames as they were statements of my opinions about him, and his actions.

Molly:
No, it's not too polite to do so... however, this site is about promoting MUD sites... and forums about MUDs are MUD sites. It also demonstrates another point. I set up my forums on MUD Planet (which Synozeer knows about, btw) due to my growing disdain for the smegma that discussions here have evolved into. There are the occasional posts that show promise as a good discussion, but as of late I've seen very few.

Everyone:
Now, I think the point of these posts has been made. LikitaRenn did ask a simple question, and it has resulted in an escalating number of posts that have started down the same path (and yes, it is partially my fault) the last went. So, I apologize to those who had to wade through the pointlessness that is this post.

I believe the whole point of this topic has been addressed. If any of you have any further statements feel free. I am, however, done. My opinions have been made, and my stance on the subject quite clear.

Good day to you all.
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Old 08-07-2002, 09:02 AM   #32
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*various emotional/angst-filled garbage...*
Your infantile hatred never ceases to amaze or amuse me.

Yes that's a flame, a mild one at that. I'm not going to put much effort in something petty like this "flame war".

However, I sympathise to the other people who think this thread is utter rubbish and hence should be closed. This thread has served it's use well, with only 2 or 3 people disagreeing with LikitaRenn coming back, an equal ammount welcoming her back and about 700+ people who didn't comment on it. Hence why from my point of view, Likita is more then welcome again.

Now Orion, be a good mod and lock this thread because you supposedly don't endorse flame wars and as you have read, people are tired of this thread.
 
Old 08-07-2002, 11:26 AM   #33
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My god (and I say that not having one)... what has happened to this place? What do I see? A born illiterate[1], a flamer, a repentant (?) flamer, and the worst mod I've ever seen on a board[2]. And supporting cast. Shut this thread down. Delete it. Pretend it never happened.

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[1]Yes, yes. I know.
[2]you have a 10-PAGE FLAME-FEST PINNED FFS!
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Old 08-07-2002, 12:00 PM   #34
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Sorry, Kastagaar, but you've mistaken about me... I'm not born illitirate, I'm born russian...
But I agree : This post must die. Go to the garbage heap of the history. Or, better let it live and prosper, so that generations to come would have a good negative (heh, sounds cool : good negative ) example of a bad mod in bad mood. Maybe even not that bad, but... well, all, who posted here (including myself) just like flames too much, I'm afraid... I don't know how about others, but I'm sorry for posting some not so smart remarks in so harmless (YES it WAS harmless) post.
Thats all.
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Old 08-07-2002, 01:32 PM   #35
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Shao, you do realize that sentence implies that anyone that is born Russian is also born illiterate?

Now, onto the thread. Ingham is Seth. I don't care what BS he pulls out of his ass, or what.

Ingham - You were BANNED from the boards, for gods sakes. You have no right to suggest anything to -anyone-, period. You have no right to correct anyone on manners. You have no right to flame anyone - period. Get my point? You were the first, I believe, public well-known ban on TMS. You have no right at all to correct anyone on anything relating to spam, flames, or what have you.

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Old 08-08-2002, 08:19 AM   #36
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Sorry, Kastagaar, but you've mistaken about me... I'm not born illitirate, I'm born russian...
In that case, I must conclude that you do it on purpose, what with having the correct spelling for "illiterate" on the very same page.

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Old 08-08-2002, 08:19 AM   #37
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I fully agree with Kastagaar's post and views and like him, I agree that this thread should either be closed or deleted and not my single, individual posts. You can delete my posts but not my opinion...
 
Old 08-08-2002, 12:16 PM   #38
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Well, I might be not very well in... english grammars.. But word literacy isn't just grammars, if you didn't knew...
But I didn't posted this thing because of this.. I just have to correct myself a bit.. Not all who posted here are flamers, no.. I don't think that Molly O'Hara is, or Brianna, or Likita .. maybe the latter spammed, but not flamed, that's for sure.
Period.

PS. maybe we should create a poll - 'should this post be closed ?' ...
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Old 08-08-2002, 07:00 PM   #39
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*shrugs* The foremost reason I no longer regularly come to TMS is because of the actions of Likita, Shao and Seth. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

Now I thought Likita was asking for forgiveness last time I was around here in May or so, but perhaps I was mistaken. *shrugs again*
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PS. maybe we should create a poll - 'should this post be closed ?' ...
####, fan, impact.

This isn't even funny anymore.
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