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Old 05-28-2002, 04:30 PM   #1
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ok,im bored so i spam
but this poll just HAS to be here,if we have such a lot of stuff about movies

So..Who's strongest ? Who's coolest ? Who kick$ @$$ most ?
yea yea,I know,I should have added Di kaprio,but he's not a kicker,he's kicked

*EDITED TO ADD THIS \/*
*edited again to correct a TERRIBLE mistake - not another,but OTHER kicker*
well,allright..Everyone who votes for other kicker - plz tell , what kicker is that,and WHY are you voting for him

Yes i know its unfair.But the kickers I posted are the best ! so .. dont mess with them or me !!
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Old 05-28-2002, 10:45 PM   #2
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In the absence of Bruce Willis, I'll go with Clint.
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Old 05-28-2002, 11:22 PM   #3
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you're trying to tell me Bruce Willis has at least something to do with real kicking ? wow.. good ol' Arnies' days have passed,that I see.. but to sink SO low.. ewww.... well, at least you didnt said 'other' and quietly ran away as two already did thanks at least for that..

Althought I hoped that at least someone'll remember Schwarz..
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Old 05-29-2002, 12:36 AM   #4
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Bringing this back into a mud-related topic-

You forgot the newest and biggest butt kicker yet-
The One,
The only-

Jet Li

He impressed us so much in Return of the Dragon, Lethal Weapon 4 and The One that we revised some of our monk maneouvers on our mud to make our higher level martial artists able to approach his level of skill.
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Old 05-29-2002, 01:48 AM   #5
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yah,yah,he's nice and etc..but..He is still not a legend of kicking (he's still too new..) , besides i bet most of his 'martial arts' arent anything but nice tricks a'la matrix.. he's cute, i agree.. But any of the dragons (bruce or chen) would have kicked him really badly

yay...a weird idea.. imagine a movie : Jacky Chen Versus Bruce Lee.. wow.. this would've been LEGENDARY...
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Old 05-29-2002, 02:07 AM   #6
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Normally, I do not involve myself in threads such as these, however, Shao's latest post required my input.

Of all those listed, only Stallone, and to a lesser extent, Lee is mentionable.

Stallone is a shichidan (seventh dan) of Aikido, either a derivation or a "sister art" to the Art that I follow - aikijujutsu. Lee created his own Art. The rest are nothing more then special affects wonders. While Chan (Not Jacky Chen, twip, Jackie Chan) has some ability according to what I understand, it is at best a sandan - a third dan.

The rest are inconsequential - even Jet Li. Van Damne (Not Damn, again, twip) supposedly has some talent, but Stallone challenged him to a fight - and Van Damne ran away.

And, they are movie stars. To quote my sensei, "My training is not for making money. It is to hone the soul - and the body". Not only do most follow hideously bastardized Americanized Arts (For the record, I an American. But most arts have been utterly....destroyed in America. I'll rant about this later.), but their form is a joke, excluding Stallone and Lee. If my, or any student of the Arts, form was as bad as any of the non-excluded actors, my Sensei (a kudan, mind you) would likely expel me/student from the Art.

These are real marital artists. There is no special affects. Note the form, the stance. Even a sandan has better form then any actor (excluding Lee and Stallone, again) mentioned on the thread or the poll.

I am shocked that you overlooked Chow Yun Fat. From his work in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, I am somewhat impressed. If that was him performing the kata, and not a stunt-double. If it was, I have high hopes for his future career.

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Old 05-29-2002, 03:02 AM   #7
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In spite of all that's been said, for sheer "wow that impressed me on-screen", I would vote Jet Li, so my vote's a null one.

But if we were voting for real people, I'd say Akuma. What do you mean, "he's not real"?

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Old 05-29-2002, 05:02 AM   #8
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I'd vote for Jet Li too - and I hardly consider him "inconsequential". He started training at the Beijing Wushu Academy aged 9, won his first championship at the age of 11, and by the age of 18 had won the gold medal for All-Round National Champion 5 years running. He also went on to represent his country in a world tour that included a performance on the White House lawn for the American president, Richard Nixon.

He's been in around 35 movies and was considered one of the greatest starts in Hong Kong in the 80's and 90's - but he was a national hero long before then. His movies might have a lot of special affects in them, but then that's the way Hong Kong movies tend to be. He didn't use special effects to win 5 gold medals, though.
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Old 05-29-2002, 05:54 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by (Dulan @ May 29 2002,08:07 am)
Of all those listed, only Stallone, and to a lesser extent, Lee is mentionable.

Stallone is a shichidan (seventh dan) of Aikido, either a derivation or a "sister art" to the Art that I follow - aikijujutsu. Lee created his own Art. The rest are nothing more then special affects wonders. While Chan (Not Jacky Chen, twip, Jackie Chan) has some ability according to what I understand, it is at best a sandan - a third dan.
Apart from KaVir's correction on Jet Li, there's also another one missing here who's not your average SFX actor: Steven Seagal.

Steven was the first foreigner ever to own and operate an Aikido dojo in Japan. Known as "Master Take Shigemichi", he was the chief instructor at the Aikido Tenshin Dojo in the city of Osaka. He's 7th Dan IIRC.
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Old 05-29-2002, 08:42 AM   #10
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I would go with Jet Li also
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Old 05-29-2002, 01:04 PM   #11
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Steven Seagal is correct. I always get Stallone and Seagal confused.

As for KaV's Jet Li comments - Chow Yun Fat has an equally impressive resume. Why was he not on the list, then?

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Old 05-29-2002, 03:32 PM   #12
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As for KaV's Jet Li comments - Chow Yun Fat has an equally impressive resume. Why was he not on the list, then?
I didn't create the list. I was just refuting the claim that Jet Li was "inconsequential".
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Old 05-29-2002, 07:19 PM   #13
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Mmm. Point taken, KaVir.

However, he started at 9. The youngest age for beginning acceptance of any serious Art I've seen yet is 14.

Before then, it is generally considered to be too young to fully comprehend the concepts taught. I'd not expect a 9 year old to understand the concept of a honed spirit.

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Old 05-30-2002, 08:59 AM   #14
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First of all,Dulan :
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Of all those listed, only Stallone, and to a lesser extent, Lee is mentionable.
If you never knew, Schwarznegger is a multiple mr.Olympica. It doesnt means he's master of martial arts or whatever. Althought he could kick a lot of @$$'es anyway,believe me.

Jackie Chan is actually very proficient in martial arts.

And, I never meant _REAL_ kickers.Its about kickers who we see not the hidden ones if it would be about REAL strong guys - Miamoto Musashi would made them all,given him a katana . Or,maybe,Ieyasu Tokugawa. Or Jan San Fen.
Just,how do you think,do many people know names like Jan San Fen ? or Musashi ? or any else really great martial arts specialist ?

now,Im sorry if anyone was offended not to see someone here. I really really would like to see Wesley Snipes on the list and Seagel as well. But I forgot.
I never knew Jet Li's name,even thought I like him.So what ?

This poll is about Well Known Veteran Kickers.
About ones everyone knows.
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But perhaps the most interesting thing in this poll is that Shao is going to kill over 40% of the people that voted.

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Old 05-30-2002, 02:47 PM   #16
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well,im a mega maniac.. now just have to catch them all
but,well..im actually very dissapointed..noone thinks Will Smith is cool (althought 5 people voted MIB rocks ) only one voted Arnie rocks..althought I thought he's a legend... weird..
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The youngest age for beginning acceptance of any serious Art I've seen yet is 14.
Then you should look around more. I've seen plenty of styles which start training as young as 4 or 5.
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I reiterate, KaVir, serious art. Not some Americanized, bastardized kiddie art.

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The original Shaolin Temple teaches children from the age of 6 onwards - those who show exceptional skill are offered the monk hood at the age of 18.
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Old 05-30-2002, 04:54 PM   #20
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I, too, would like to see how many people Shao_Long can take.  

As far as Arny goes, pressing metal and primping doesn't make you a good fighter.

Does Van Damm have to do those silly splits in every movie?

Of everyone suggested, I would go with Jet Li.

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