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Old 04-20-2002, 05:04 PM   #1
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Hey,
I have a Rom 2.4 on my computer and i was wondering how to play it normally only on my computer for free. I want to practice Coding a little bit.

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Old 04-20-2002, 10:06 PM   #2
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Get cygwin or djgpp (just plug the words into a search engine), djgpp is a port of the popular GNU gcc compiler for windows/dos, and cygwin is a UNIX-like environment for windows.

Compile like it says in the docs, and you can play away, yay.
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Old 04-21-2002, 09:07 PM   #3
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you dont pay to play it, you dont pay to use it.
all diku and drivatives are free to use
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Old 04-22-2002, 11:40 AM   #4
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Did I understand you to say that you want to brush up your coding by programming a mud? Perhaps a mud is not the best way to begin a coding career. Those things are huge and complex, and take a deal of background info before you understand them well. Even people who have been coding for a while dont exactly understand all of the code, as not all of it is documented. Maybe you should start with something easier...?
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Old 04-22-2002, 12:37 PM   #5
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Ummmmmmm.... Playing around inside a codebase is not exactly brain surgery. Actually if you have a real good feel of how ROM works from a players perspective, then it is not too tough to go in and see how thing work from the code-side. It will take ALOT of searching around for what you are really looking for. Installing a simple skill snippet can somewhat direct you around.
Sure you may not be able to become a high level computer programmer from looking at the Diku source, but there is certainly alot to learn from toying around with it.
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Old 04-22-2002, 06:20 PM   #6
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Granted jumping in from scratch can give you a bit of experience, but the impression I recieved was that he wanted to learn C programming this way. Learning a Diku-rivative AND a programming language at the same time is a no-no. Take them one at a time.
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Old 04-22-2002, 06:26 PM   #7
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Question

But that's how I learned to program in C... =)
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Old 04-23-2002, 02:15 AM   #8
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Yes, but I'm sure that you were not completely new to coding in general, Yui .
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Old 04-23-2002, 02:23 AM   #9
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well,as I thought,its always the best practice to start learning straight from the middle,not from some stupid tutorials.
At least thats how I learned all the php tcl and html coding , and other stuff.If you dont understand something - you can always refer to help files,but you'll get much better results if you'll try to do something useful from start,not some simplified examples.At least thats what I think.
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Old 04-23-2002, 10:09 AM   #10
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Well, I suppose. Yui, I don't doubt you can pick up C from simply looking at code, although I suspect you had some background in programming. However, I dont think somebody can learn object oriented programming or advanced coding concepts (queues pointers notation) by simply looking at code. Some of this needs to be learned by sitting down and looking at a book, unless you're Ken Perlin.

Tutorials can be dumb though. For instance, "Hello World!" In my college-level java class, we didnt make any stupid applet to begin the course. The first thing we did was open up the source of a simple java applet the instructor made and the assignment was "see what you can do with it". If worked pretty well, it saturated our brains, you might say, and got us used to the language, and told many of the students that Java isnt really that complex.
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Old 04-23-2002, 11:06 AM   #11
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It all depends on how you learn, some people are thinkers, some are doers, I do the job of an Electrical Engineer, designing digital electronics and microcontroller code, but I dropped out of Electrical Eng in school, and hell, I may not even get my CS degree because it's too damn boring.

Point being, some people will learn C a lot better staring at K&R2 and diku than just K&R2.

Although granted, something a lot nicer than diku should be found for someone just learning.
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Old 04-26-2002, 07:48 PM   #12
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Okay,

I am NOT new at coding...I am looking to practice coding offline (With out cygwin) So if anyone can help me, Come on my MUD Return of the Paradox 2 or reply to it.  

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Old 05-25-2002, 04:09 PM   #13
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^Bump^
I really would like to know this so if you DO know either e-mail me jayl_01@hotmail.com Post a reply, or come online to Return of the ParadoxII and ask for Jayl

Thanks a lot.
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Old 05-26-2002, 05:20 PM   #14
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If I understand you right, you want to know how you can get the Rom2.4 codebase to run on "plain" windows, without an emulation layer such as cygwin? (but then, maybe i got you totally wrong ) Well, I don't think this will succeed, at least not without an immense amount of effort and rewriting going into it. So, I'ld advise you to either get cygwin to compile it, or repartition a small part of your hd and let some Linux or BSD distro run on it (which I'ld recommend - it just runs more seamlessly that way).
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Old 05-28-2002, 12:11 AM   #15
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This is a good place to check every once in a while if you're looking for a Windows port of ROM that won't require Cygwin.  It's easy to get running and it'll let you get into the meat and potatoes of coding without worrying too much about compilation issues.
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