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Old 02-14-2004, 11:46 PM   #1
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Hello Top MUD Site Visitors and Regulars.

I am looking for a, yes, special individual.

I am looking for someone who has had a lot of experience in text gaming, that would be willing to take a younger individual under his/her wing and instill ideas and quality values (that pertain to text games) into him. I am looking for someone who has been and seen almost all there is to text games, systems, and code. I am an adolescent male (15 years old) who is quite willing to learn anything taught to him. I take a mature and reasonable approach to anything I deal with and would like to work with someone who exhibits those same qualities as well. I prefer that this person has a lot of time on his/her hands and is well-knowledgable in C++ (That is the language I am studying, but I have someone to specifically help me with that). Also, a person in the US Eastern timezone would most definately be a plus.

I have been playing text games of many varieties for almost 4 years (MUDs, and MUSHs mainly) and I am looking for someone who can approach me with 2 to 3 times the experience. I have been Administrating MUDs for about 1.5 years now and programming for 3 months. I hope to find people with unique, intuitive ideas that have depth, yet simpleness. I, myself, have plenty of time to spend during the day, and would love to conversate with someone about text games.

I can be contacted very easily via AIM [ ii ch0c0 ii ], MSN Messenger [ iich0c0ii@hotmail.com ], or my email address [ iich0c0ii@hotmail.com ].

--I do appreciate and thank you for your time and attention.
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Old 02-18-2004, 08:36 PM   #2
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Knowing Raith quite well, I'd like to vouch for him and offer my reference. He is enthusiastic, full of wonderful ideas, and an overall great guy with alot of potential.

Raith, best of luck.
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Old 02-19-2004, 12:41 AM   #3
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Raith,

I am not totally sure whether you are wanting experience in muding or programming.

C++ is a challenging language, and to best understand it you need a firm grasp on C first. C is a procedural language as apposed to C++ which is the object oriented version of C.

I can be found in #c on undernet (http://www.undernet.org) which is an irc network. There are a ton of people there (including myself) who would be happy to help you with programming. Then if you decide that are ready to graduate to C++ you can do that too.

I can also be found on my mud (http://tfa.tenament.com), but it might just be easier to e-mail me --> braden@tenament.com.

Good luck!
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Old 02-19-2004, 12:56 AM   #4
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C++ is a challenging language, and to best understand it you need a firm grasp on C first.
From the alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++ Newsgroup FAQ

19: Should I learn C before learning C++?

    According to a number of C++ experts, including its creator Bjarne
    Stroustrup, and Marshall Cline (the author of the C++ FAQ), the
    answer is a firm no.

    Look up the C++ FAQ to see why Cline thinks you do not need to
    learn C before C++. A post by Bjarne Stroustrup to comp.lang.c++
    addresses this point too.
      http://www.research.att.com/~bs/learn.html

    "Learning Standard C++ as a New Language" - a paper by Stroustrup
    available from http://www.research.att.com/~bs/papers.html -
    examines this much-debated issue in great depth, but the paper is
    aimed more at educators than at beginners.


I tend to agree, learning C first I think has greatly hindered my comprehension in C++ ( hard to teach an old dog new tricks) almost to the point that I wished I had learned C++ first instead.
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Old 02-19-2004, 02:31 AM   #5
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Braden,

I do appreciate your advice, but in this situation I've found Tavish to be right.

The book I am using to help me with C++ also strongly suggests against it for the same reasons he has mentioned. However, It does not go without teaching the differences and advantages that C++ has over C. C is referred to throughout the entire book, and I'm confident that I can do well without it. So, that settles the issue.

Maybe I should clear the situation up, though.

I am looking for someone who has had a lot of experience is both MUDing. Someone who has had several innovative, out-of-the-box ideas, but just doesn't have the energy or drive to follow through with them. I can also use another person just to chit-chat with as well, because I do get bored staring at my Buddy list all day.

I do appreciate the assistance once again, and thank you too Romi.
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Old 02-19-2004, 05:21 AM   #6
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Personally, I think this is the best way to learn C++:

Learn C.
Learn Java.
Learn C++.

By learning C, you learn programming. By learning Java, you are forced to un-learn the idiosyncrasies ot C. By learning C++, you learn C++ (instead of some C-ified C++).
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Old 02-24-2004, 08:23 PM   #7
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Hey Raith Talk to Tjnet88 He's trying to start a new mud and its always good to get in on the ground floor. As for someone to show you the ropes thats what this place is for.


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Old 02-25-2004, 12:31 AM   #8
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I would like to re-iterate that I do not really need people to show me the ropes of programming in general or MUDs. I am very much capable of thinking up a very adequate and thought out MUD idea, but I want someone who will push me to think of unique (as apposed to adequate) ideas for MUD systems.
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Old 03-21-2004, 07:04 PM   #9
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I disagree, I think C is essential to learning the nuances of C++.  I also disagree that C++ has absolute advantages over C.  Sometimes having an object oriented language can be much more inefficient then having a strict procedural language.  On the other side of the coin, there are times when an object oriented language is better (eg. creating windows apps).

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Old 03-21-2004, 07:09 PM   #10
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*sighs*

No more...please.

This is not the C++ is better than C thread. If you keep looking in the list, you'll find that thread somewhere.
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Old 03-21-2004, 10:12 PM   #11
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Just as a suggestion, it seems like you could also accomplish what you're wanting by finding a young or unfinished mud where lots of crazy new ideas are being kicked around and admin/build/code there. Those kinda places are often brimming with interesting mud discussion.
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