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Old 11-10-2006, 05:06 PM   #21
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For someone who 'doesn't care', you sure have a lot to say on the subject, matt.

Mostly negative too. Makes one wonder why you are so against this request.
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Old 11-10-2006, 05:17 PM   #22
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For someone who 'doesn't care', you sure have a lot to say on the subject, matt.

Mostly negative too. Makes one wonder why you are so against this request.
I have no personal stake in the outcome and see it as a wash for the site either way, but then, I don't really care whether you choose Pecorino Romano or Parmesan Reggiano to go on pasta either, but I'd be happy to talk about that choice in length, as it's a subject that's interesting to me. Everything doesn't have to be "pro" or "con". Sometimes one just wants to discuss.

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Old 11-10-2006, 06:06 PM   #23
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Really? Odd. Each of the two biggest MUDs currently have brought more traffic here this cycle (each one, not combined) than ALL of the MUDs ranked 40-100, combined. The top 20 MUDs combined have brought in, this cycle so far, over seven times as much traffic as 40-100 have.

So tell me again how the MUDs ranked mid-to-low bring all this traffic here? I'm sure you have some numbers to back up your assertion, right?
Remind me where I said "all"? I'm not seeing that.

See, I look at those numbers and say that 1/8 of the traffic is a sizable chunk, especially when you deduct your own traffic. (You're presumably not buying ads for your own players to see.) If I were running a business, I'd probably avoid considering 1/8+ of potential customers as irrelevant.
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Old 11-10-2006, 06:18 PM   #24
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Hey the_logos, you should get a job with the Republican party!  I understand they are always on the lookout for people to innovate the techniques and theory of voter suppression.

EDIT:  this is exactly what the GOP should have done to save their majority.  New U.S. elections law, if you vote earlier than *exactly* 2 years since the last time you voted, your vote doesn't count!  
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Old 11-10-2006, 11:09 PM   #25
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Alternatively, give 60 votes for 30-day periods.  Let them spend them when they wish, as they wish, but when those are done, that's it. Probably pretty easy to just throw down an inverse counter cookie that ignores IP, or some such brainy control over the output.

I like MostPopularSites' approach - the last time voted is available if you happen to vote too soon, so you can see how long you have to wait to be able to vote before.  The only thing I don't like is the eensy teensy 2-pt type of the numbers you have to type in to confirm, but bless their hearts, they listen to my gripes and diatribe once a year anyway.

Flame on.
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Old 11-10-2006, 11:40 PM   #26
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Alternatively, give 60 votes for 30-day periods.  Let them spend them when they wish, as they wish, but when those are done, that's it. Probably pretty easy to just throw down an inverse counter cookie that ignores IP, or some such brainy control over the output.
I think people would abuse this readily unless it was tied into some sort of mandatory login system (which would be unpopular and cumbersome). Got 5 minutes of free time at the library or on a friend's laptop? Spam in 60 votes.
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Old 11-11-2006, 02:36 AM   #27
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If the whole point to these voting systems is to generate traffic for ads, I wonder how many frequent voters use ad blocking software to not see any. I view these pages with nary an ad
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Old 11-12-2006, 11:35 AM   #28
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Same here. I'm just here for the free popcorn.
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:30 PM   #29
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It'd be interesting to see how many votes were cancelled or ignored because the voter didn't wait long enough.
That is what I am still very curious about.

What happens when someone votes early?

1) Nothing.

2) Their vote doesn't count AND their timer is reset so they cannot vote for another 12 hours.

3) Something else entirely.

Which is it?
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:33 PM   #30
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Incidentally, I would much prefer a system where everyone's counter reset at 12pm and 12am instead of this 12 hour timer thing that makes it harder to know when your timer is reset.
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