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Old 09-18-2007, 11:44 PM   #1
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The new DIKU?

Raph Koster's new venture has announced its platform:

Metaplace - Metaplace Announcement

Basically a 'make your own MMO' in five minutes. Thought some of you might like to see that (if you haven't yet, I imagine Matt might have already).
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Old 09-19-2007, 07:25 AM   #2
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Re: The new DIKU?

It's also been reported on by the BBC here.

It'll be interesting to try it out and see how things work. They could be on to something which blasts open the MMO world to new ideas, but then the cynical part of me thinks if MMO developers wanted new ideas they could have just spent some time studying the great MUD games out there...
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Old 09-19-2007, 07:48 AM   #3
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Re: The new DIKU?

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It's also been reported on by the BBC here.

It'll be interesting to try it out and see how things work. They could be on to something which blasts open the MMO world to new ideas, but then the cynical part of me thinks if MMO developers wanted new ideas they could have just spent some time studying the great MUD games out there...
Haven't read the article yet so maybe it already says this, but my first thought at reading the site is that they're aiming much bigger than MMOs. Instead of "check out my myspace/facebook page" the next generation of internet users could be likely to say "check out my metaplace".

Be interesting to learn more about what their business model is, running ads in/on the games that are made, selling additional tools as optional extras, etc.
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Old 09-19-2007, 04:02 PM   #4
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Re: The new DIKU?

w00t for this thread. Thanks, Ide! (And sorry for duplicating the other one. I'll see to its demise.)

I am interested in tinkering - already applied for the alpha!
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Old 09-19-2007, 04:32 PM   #5
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:39 PM   #6
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If Raph Koster is involved, count me in. *races over*
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:57 PM   #7
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Re: The new DIKU?

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It's also been reported on by the BBC here.

It'll be interesting to try it out and see how things work. They could be on to something which blasts open the MMO world to new ideas, but then the cynical part of me thinks if MMO developers wanted new ideas they could have just spent some time studying the great MUD games out there...
I know a fair number of MMO developers (and we're developing one ourself) and there is no shortage of ideas, at all. Quite the opposite. The trouble is that ideas are cheap and easy. Everyone's got tons of them.

Executing on those ideas such that the result is a product profitable enough to be worth the money+risk is the hard part.

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Old 09-19-2007, 06:25 PM   #8
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Executing on those ideas such that the result is a product profitable enough to be worth the money+risk is the hard part.
Which is exactly the problem. No-one wants to risk trying something new in case they don't make any money, so we get a bunch of WoW clones. Hopefully this will provide a way for MMO developers to track what is popular in the online community using it that doesn't currently feature in MMOs, and add it with less risk. They can even develop the idea in their own Metaplace free of charge (if I read this right) and see what kind of feedback it gets with no initial cost outlay at all except their time.

Good things all round I reckon!
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:41 PM   #9
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Which is exactly the problem. No-one wants to risk trying something new in case they don't make any money, so we get a bunch of WoW clones.
I'm not sure that's fair to say either. If you look at the most popular MMOs in the world, most of them are not WoW clones, actually. Look at like Club Penguin, Habbo, Runescape (the latter two predate WoW by years), Maple Story, Webkinz, Audition, and so on. MTV (who is pumping half a billion into online games) has released six MMOs in the last couple of years, none of which are anything like WoW.

Metaplace may indeed allow developers to prototype more quickly and might even be good enough to build full-on commercial MMOs in. Raph's company is working on implementing their first "worldy" MMO using Metaplace, for instance. I suspect the devil is in the details here though and until a lot of devs start using it's kind of hard to judge to what extent it'll be useful. The idea itself is freaking cool but see above.....

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P.S. What's really amazing is that Areae/Raph did this in a year, on a relatively small team.

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Old 10-11-2007, 09:59 PM   #10
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Re: The new DIKU?

Rather than starting a totally new thread, poking the necro stick at this one. A new interview is up where Metaplace gets explained in more detail -- this is a good one to get an idea of what this thing actually is all about:

The MMO Gamer Interview: Areae’s Raph Koster Talks Metaplace

I have to admit it's starting to sound pretty damn cool.

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Old 10-12-2007, 01:49 PM   #11
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Re: The new DIKU?

Raph's always got some great ideas for gaming. I definitely jumped up and signed in for being a tester as I usually do with his projects.

I love when he does interviews. He gives us free pr!
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:32 PM   #12
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Re: The new DIKU?

And Metaplace is closing down...
http://metaplace.us1.list-manage.com...2&e=ac369d4d2e
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Just to clarify, that's Metaplace-the-product not Metaplace-the-company (formerly known as Areae).


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Old 12-21-2009, 09:11 PM   #14
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Re: The new DIKU?

Yeah I'm sure they aren't going to just blow off all that tech; they had some pretty nifty Flash stuff going on there. It's a shame to see it go but I'm not entirely surprised. It always felt like a bit of an uneasy mix of game creation and social networking to me.
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Was it ever really given a full chance? If it wasn't for this site I'd have never heard of it and I think I'm quite far above average on the measure of "interested in virtual worlds".
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Re: The new DIKU?

Since apparently the link wants you to login, here's the email I got:
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metaplace.com is closing on january 1, 2010

Today we have unfortunate news to share with the Metaplace community. We will be closing down our service on January 1, 2010 at 11:59pm Pacific. The official announcement is here and copied below, and you can read a FAQ guide here. We will be having a goodbye celebration party on January 1st at 12:00noon Pacific Time.

Over the last several years, we here at Metaplace Inc. have been working very hard to create an open platform allowing anyone to come to a website and create a virtual world of their own.

Unfortunately, over the last few months it has become apparent that Metaplace as a consumer UGC service is not gaining enough traction to be a viable product, requiring a strategic shift for our company.

We’re sorry to announce today that Metaplace.com will be closing to the public at 11:59pm on January 1st, 2010.

This is a bittersweet moment for us. Metaplace Inc the company will be continuing on – in fact, we have big plans – but what you the users have known as Metaplace will be going away. We are also losing some friends and colleagues here as part of this strategic shift.

We’d rather dwell on the good than the sad. You, the users, have done amazing work here, and we want to celebrate it. We may not have managed to reach our goals with Metaplace.com and Metaplace Central, but we still had a lot of fun, watched creativity flower, visited amazing places, and made a lot of friends. We’ve had amazing guest speakers, more parties than we can count, live concerts, movie premieres and art shows; we’ve seen you make adventures and schools and churches and games and countless other sorts of worlds that would otherwise never have been created.

In that spirit, we want to treat these next two weeks more as a celebration of the good times. We invite you all to come back to see all of the amazing worlds that you have made. Registration will remain open, so you can show off to your friends. Remote embeds will remain active until the last day as well.

We’ll be turning off billing immediately, and refunding everyone for all purchases in the month of December as well as subscription payments that apply to December and future months. This month is on us. We are suspending regular customer service, but the support site will remain open for now in case there are any critical billing issues.

We know many of you have done work here that you would like to preserve. Please do use this time to capture screenshots, data, scripts, movies, and assets. We have a FAQ that explains how to retrieve assets from the service.

When other worlds have reached a sunset point, people have lost touch with each other. We’ve made a lot of friends here and we’re sure that you have too, so we don’t want that to happen. We have created a forum site athttp://www.metaplaceveterans.com that will be operational soon, so that you can all keep in touch with one another.

Finally: we want to treat the 1st of January as a celebration, rather than a sad moment. Please join us on that day for a party, starting at noon Pacific time. If Metaplace.com has to go, we want to go out with style, with joy, and with the same sense of fun that we have always had. Let’s celebrate the journey, not the ending. There will be meeps – count on it.

We’re sure you have many questions about all of this – and there’s a detailed FAQ that we hope answers them. Click here to read it.

In the meantime, we want to thank you all for your support, your effort, your creativity, and your loyalty. We know that many of you will be disappointed by this outcome. We are too. We are embarking on a new and exciting direction, and it feels strange not to have you all along for the ride.

It has been a privilege to have had you here with us on this great adventure, and we hope that this community – this wonderful, engaged, passionate, friendly community – lives on and on.

We’ll miss you -- and we hope to see you again.

Metaplace Team
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