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Terloch · 10-09-2003, 08:41 PM

Speaking from someone tired of monotous consistency, good luck to all of you at Aardwolf!

And yes, please by all means feel free to assume what you want from this, I'm sure you will be correct...

- Terl

the_logos · 10-10-2003, 01:36 AM

Yes, winning every contest for the last year is getting tedious. Competition good.

--matt

Delerak · 10-10-2003, 12:25 PM

And Aardwolf isn't a commercial mud.

-Delerak

the_logos · 10-10-2003, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Delerak @ Oct. 10 2003,12:25)

And Aardwolf isn't a commercial mud.

-Delerak

Ok....And?

--matt

Delerak · 10-10-2003, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (the_logos @ Oct. 10 2003,01:36)

Yes, winning every contest for the last year is getting tedious. Competition good.

--matt

Okay...and? Every thing can go both ways, you posted something just as pointless as I did.

-Delerak

the_logos · 10-10-2003, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Delerak @ Oct. 10 2003,15:12)

Quote:

Originally Posted by (the_logos @ Oct. 10 2003,01:36)

Yes, winning every contest for the last year is getting tedious. Competition good.

--matt

Okay...and? Every thing can go both ways, you posted something just as pointless as I did.

-Delerak

Sorry for trying to encourage the competition.

--matt, who isn't actually sorry.

Estarra · 10-10-2003, 03:30 PM

Where'd Materia Magica go?

the_logos · 10-10-2003, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Estarra @ Oct. 10 2003,15:30)

Where'd Materia Magica go?

I don't know. They have very odd voting behaviors anyway. They'll get no votes for a couple days and then suddenly shoot up by a couple hundred votes.

--matt

Treestump · 10-10-2003, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Delerak @ Oct. 10 2003,12:25)

And Aardwolf isn't a commercial mud.

What's with the hostility?

It seemed cool to me to see logos cheering on another competitor. Or did I misread something?

Delerak · 10-10-2003, 04:29 PM

I was mentioning that it wasn't a commercial mud. Where's the hostility in that? I think there is more hostility in Matts words then mine.

-Del

Treestump · 10-10-2003, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Delerak @ Oct. 10 2003,16:29)

I was mentioning that it wasn't a commercial mud. Where's the hostility in that? I think there is more hostility in Matts words then mine.

-Del

We are all entitled to our opinions, I suppose.

Koryon · 10-10-2003, 09:22 PM

</lurk>

Quote:

Originally Posted by

And Aardwolf isn't a commercial mud.

-Delerak

Well now, THAT is a VERY debatable point...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

[2877] Lasher: Re: Diku License
Board: Personal
Date: Mon May 21 12:39:50 2001
To: imm Koryon
================================================== =========================
Vryce makes a living off his mud and claims it is not Diku based in
order to justify doing so. I am simply opening donations up for a few
days to pay for an upgrade the server needs. Yes there is a reward given,
but there is nothing given that cannot be gotten through just plain
working for it either - the only advantage donators have over non-donators
is a time saving. Also, what I am giving as a reward is nothing that
is part of stock Diku or ROM - trivia points/quest points. Don't get
me wrong, trying to justify it on those grounds would be very silly,
my point is that this is a very fine line. I am not trying to make
money off the mud, if I were I would keep donations open all the time,
I am opening it for a few days to buy some hardware the mud needs to
continue to thrive, if that's so bad and it gets me labelled as a
licence breaker, oh well.

, fades back into the shadows with his dead horse and flogging utensils.

Delerak · 10-10-2003, 10:03 PM

What does that prove? That you are a horrible immortal at Aard? Commercial is something to MAKE money from. Not make money for a few days, buy hardware to improve your already free game with then stop making money... Please.

-Delerak

vedic · 10-10-2003, 10:21 PM

Yes, good luck! I'm sure it will be a "valiant" struggle until Achaea mysteriously gains 1,000 votes from nowhere.. but at least it will look like a competition for awhile!

the_logos · 10-10-2003, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (vedic @ Oct. 10 2003,22:21)

Yes, good luck! I'm sure it will be a "valiant" struggle until Achaea mysteriously gains 1,000 votes from nowhere.. but at least it will look like a competition for awhile!

All the bitter types pop out of the woodwork.

If you have an accusation to make, make it and be prepared to back it up. Otherwise, grow up.

--matt

vedic · 10-10-2003, 11:02 PM

I can't back it up, because I don't have access to the topmudsites server logs. But I'd imagine it's pretty obvious to some people. You know exactly what I am talking about.

False modesty = annoying after awhile.

the_logos · 10-10-2003, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (vedic @ Oct. 10 2003,23:02)

I can't back it up, because I don't have access to the topmudsites server logs. But I'd imagine it's pretty obvious to some people. You know exactly what I am talking about.

False modesty = annoying after awhile.

No, you can't back it up because you're full of ****, plain and simple.

--matt

vedic · 10-10-2003, 11:39 PM

Me? I'm not the blowhard who spends all his time on these boards patting himself on the back.

Orion Elder · 10-10-2003, 11:40 PM

Ok, people, this is getting a bit out of hand, now. Try to keep it civil. If you want to just insult people, take it private or head to the flames thread. Thanks much.

the_logos · 10-11-2003, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (vedic @ Oct. 10 2003,23:39)

Me? I'm not the blowhard who spends all his time on these boards patting himself on the back.

These boards are for discussions about muds, for promoting muds, for recruiting for players and staff for muds, and so on. I promote our muds and engage in discussions.

You, apparently, prefer to spend your time making up baseless accusations that, by your own admission, are not backed up by any evidence. Thus, you are, in fact, full of nonsense.

--matt

Azhon · 10-11-2003, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Koryon @ Oct. 11 2003,09:22)

</lurk>

Quote:

Originally Posted by

And Aardwolf isn't a commercial mud.

-Delerak

Well now, THAT is a VERY debatable point...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

[2877] Lasher: Re: Diku License
Board: Personal
Date: Mon May 21 12:39:50 2001
To: imm Koryon
================================================== =========================
Vryce makes a living off his mud and claims it is not Diku based in
order to justify doing so. I am simply opening donations up for a few
days to pay for an upgrade the server needs. Yes there is a reward given,
but there is nothing given that cannot be gotten through just plain
working for it either - the only advantage donators have over non-donators
is a time saving. Also, what I am giving as a reward is nothing that
is part of stock Diku or ROM - trivia points/quest points. Don't get
me wrong, trying to justify it on those grounds would be very silly,
my point is that this is a very fine line. I am not trying to make
money off the mud, if I were I would keep donations open all the time,
I am opening it for a few days to buy some hardware the mud needs to
continue to thrive, if that's so bad and it gets me labelled as a
licence breaker, oh well.

, fades back into the shadows with his dead horse and flogging utensils.

Hm, interesting. <Summons KaVir for analysis>

Orion Elder · 10-11-2003, 02:59 AM

<Removed, because it will likely spur on the legal discussion>

If you want to discuss the legal aspects, then it would be best to do that on the legal board. Thanks much.

the_logos · 10-11-2003, 01:56 PM

Just wanted to write that I'm quite impressed with Aardwolf's voting so far. Ahead of us even with a renewed effort on our part to out-vote them. Well done guys!

--matt

vedic · 10-11-2003, 02:20 PM

Yes, it's quite the drama!

KaVir · 10-12-2003, 08:00 AM

The answer is that, yes, by rewarding donations Aardwolf is commercialising itself, which violates the Diku license. However as Orion points out, such legalities would be better discussed in the legal forum.

Jaenelle · 10-13-2003, 07:07 PM

Yea! Go aardwolf. :) It is pretty amazing that aardwolf has been able to get this many votes. I'm rather proud of us. :) *minor gloat* Been watching this thread for days and unable to respond because I hadn't been authorized. Aardwolf does have an advantage because of the extremely dedicated and somewhat large player base. :) At the time of writing this note I just typed 'count'

There are 417 characters on, the most on this reboot was 458.

I don't know how many players Achaea has online normally, or what their player base in, so I don't know how we compare. And good work Achaea on the voting! It has been hard to keep ahead!

Jaenelle who needs to go figure out how to set a signature...

AardWolfe · 10-13-2003, 07:17 PM

Gah, now look what you did. You went and woke Jaenelle up, and now you have to put up with her spam as much on here as we do on the MUD.

Don't say I didn't warn you ;)

So I don't go off topic, it's nice to see Aard doing so well. We were doing well before, of course, but it's always nice to see a bunch of numbers which validate this :)

the_logos · 10-25-2003, 10:34 AM

Just wanted to congratulate Aardwolf on an excellent run for first this last round. No other mud has ever made us work that hard to stay in the #1 position. Certainly the closest Achaea has come to 'losing' since we first listed on the site.

--matt

vedic · 10-25-2003, 03:06 PM

Yes, the outcome was quite in doubt! Although I have to admit I was impressed that Aardwolf managed to spam almost as many votes as you did.

Eagleon · 10-25-2003, 08:44 PM

Good work, what with the clicking!

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10-09-2003, 08:41 PM	#1
Terloch Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 152	Speaking from someone tired of monotous consistency, good luck to all of you at Aardwolf! And yes, please by all means feel free to assume what you want from this, I'm sure you will be correct... - Terl

10-10-2003, 01:36 AM	#2
the_logos Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mill Valley, California Posts: 2,160	Yes, winning every contest for the last year is getting tedious. Competition good. --matt

10-10-2003, 12:25 PM	#3
Delerak Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Name: Dan Location: Florida Home MUD: Retired Mudder Posts: 669	And Aardwolf isn't a commercial mud. -Delerak

10-10-2003, 03:30 PM	#7
Estarra Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Home MUD: Lusternia Posts: 184	Where'd Materia Magica go?

10-10-2003, 04:29 PM	#10
Delerak Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Name: Dan Location: Florida Home MUD: Retired Mudder Posts: 669	I was mentioning that it wasn't a commercial mud. Where's the hostility in that? I think there is more hostility in Matts words then mine. -Del

10-10-2003, 10:03 PM	#13
Delerak Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Name: Dan Location: Florida Home MUD: Retired Mudder Posts: 669	What does that prove? That you are a horrible immortal at Aard? Commercial is something to MAKE money from. Not make money for a few days, buy hardware to improve your already free game with then stop making money... Please. -Delerak

10-10-2003, 10:21 PM	#14
vedic Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 39	Yes, good luck! I'm sure it will be a "valiant" struggle until Achaea mysteriously gains 1,000 votes from nowhere.. but at least it will look like a competition for awhile!

10-10-2003, 11:02 PM	#16
vedic Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 39	I can't back it up, because I don't have access to the topmudsites server logs. But I'd imagine it's pretty obvious to some people. You know exactly what I am talking about. False modesty = annoying after awhile.

10-10-2003, 11:39 PM	#18
vedic Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 39	Me? I'm not the blowhard who spends all his time on these boards patting himself on the back.

10-10-2003, 11:40 PM	#19
Orion Elder Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 346	Ok, people, this is getting a bit out of hand, now. Try to keep it civil. If you want to just insult people, take it private or head to the flames thread. Thanks much.

10-11-2003, 02:59 AM	#22
Orion Elder Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 346	<Removed, because it will likely spur on the legal discussion> If you want to discuss the legal aspects, then it would be best to do that on the legal board. Thanks much.

10-11-2003, 01:56 PM	#23
the_logos Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mill Valley, California Posts: 2,160	Just wanted to write that I'm quite impressed with Aardwolf's voting so far. Ahead of us even with a renewed effort on our part to out-vote them. Well done guys! --matt

10-11-2003, 02:20 PM	#24
vedic Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 39	Yes, it's quite the drama!

10-12-2003, 08:00 AM	#25
KaVir Legend Join Date: Apr 2002 Name: Richard Home MUD: God Wars II Posts: 1,952	The answer is that, yes, by rewarding donations Aardwolf is commercialising itself, which violates the Diku license. However as Orion points out, such legalities would be better discussed in the legal forum.

10-13-2003, 07:07 PM	#26
Jaenelle New Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 23	Yea! Go aardwolf. :) It is pretty amazing that aardwolf has been able to get this many votes. I'm rather proud of us. :) minor gloat Been watching this thread for days and unable to respond because I hadn't been authorized. Aardwolf does have an advantage because of the extremely dedicated and somewhat large player base. :) At the time of writing this note I just typed 'count' There are 417 characters on, the most on this reboot was 458. I don't know how many players Achaea has online normally, or what their player base in, so I don't know how we compare. And good work Achaea on the voting! It has been hard to keep ahead! Jaenelle who needs to go figure out how to set a signature...

10-13-2003, 07:17 PM	#27
AardWolfe New Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11	Gah, now look what you did. You went and woke Jaenelle up, and now you have to put up with her spam as much on here as we do on the MUD. Don't say I didn't warn you ;) So I don't go off topic, it's nice to see Aard doing so well. We were doing well before, of course, but it's always nice to see a bunch of numbers which validate this :)

10-25-2003, 10:34 AM	#28
the_logos Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mill Valley, California Posts: 2,160	Just wanted to congratulate Aardwolf on an excellent run for first this last round. No other mud has ever made us work that hard to stay in the #1 position. Certainly the closest Achaea has come to 'losing' since we first listed on the site. --matt

10-25-2003, 03:06 PM	#29
vedic Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 39	Yes, the outcome was quite in doubt! Although I have to admit I was impressed that Aardwolf managed to spam almost as many votes as you did.

10-25-2003, 08:44 PM	#30
Eagleon Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 147	Good work, what with the clicking!

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