[Orion Elder]

New flames thread, because the last had gotten big. Have fun.

[Wenlin]

Have you heard about that new hot sauce? Its like FIRE dude, like this.



FLAMING HOT!

[Xanferious]

lol thats funny....

[Santrilla]

Flames. Why do people bother?

Forums are designed so that like-minded people can share their views about stuff. They're not designed for spam, moaning about other people's spam, moaning about people moaning about you, or anything that derives from this. If you want that, go find a chat room to do it in. Leave the forums for those of us who use them.

Btw, i'm not expecting (or indeed looking forward to) any flaming replies to this. Just thought I'd give a little of my personal insight.

[GenmaC]

Originally Posted by (Santrilla @ Sep. 08 2002,8:19 pm) Flames. Why do people bother? Forums are designed so that like-minded people can share their views about stuff. They're not designed for spam, moaning about other people's spam, moaning about people moaning about you, or anything that derives from this. If you want that, go find a chat room to do it in. Leave the forums for those of us who use them. Btw, i'm not expecting (or indeed looking forward to) any flaming replies to this. Just thought I'd give a little of my personal insight.

I'd call it blather, rather than "insight". The internet is not a place for "like-minded" people to "share their views about stuff".

The internet is a source for information (some of the time), and a place where your opinion can be submitted and argued.

Too many people think the 'net is some namby-pamby place where everyone should get along.

Guess what? Want harmony, then go focus on pulling your real life out of the gutter. The 'net is not a place to build castles in the sky.

I generally find most "haters" are the ones that need to pull their real lives out of the gutter, so they're not so frustrated that they need to rant on those of us who like having discussions - and indeed, getting along.

But, as said, the net's for everyone.  Haters, pacifists, twinks, megalomaniacs, beauty queens alike.

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Tho, I believe San was discussing the Forums. Not 'le net.

[GenmaC]

Yes, but the point is more valid for the 'net as a whole, since individual forums aren't really obliged to be as open as the internet in general.

It's always really sad to see a bunch of mealy mouthed ignoramuses sucking each other off and then banning anyone who DARES venture an opinion that doesn't validate their existence...

[Sylvado]

You learn a lot more from dissenting opinions than you do from posts in agreement.

Uhm, I think the question posed was "Flames, why do people bother?". Not "can't we all agree all the time".

It is possible to discuss things without flaming. Where even people who disagree about topics can discuss them and "get along" while they do it. I believe modern culture has defined this as "debating".

Its that whole "free speech" thing those early Americans were so big on. The kind without censorship - heckling.

Y'know, really? Why bother?

[Wenlin]

Originally Posted by (Orion Elder @ Aug. 26 2002,10:56 pm) New flames thread, because the last had gotten big. Have fun.

Well, I don't know about you guys, but Orion told us to have fun, so I'm gonna have fun!

Okay, I'll go play Quake3 now...that's fun....

I will kill you all and desecrate your graves.

[Pointless Space removed by Orion... there was about 30 lines of it, for those who want to imagine it.]

Well, not really. But it looks quite evil to say that, doesn't it? And as we all know, the evil dude in an RPG always gets a cute girl at some point!

[Jazuela]

Maybe so Ingham but the genuinely evil dude wouldn't risk breaking a fingernail killing or desecrating. Instead, he'd manipulate his victims into begging for the privelege of doing it themselves.

-She who can't spell privelege right without a spellchecker because it looks misspelled no matter how she spells it.

You know you are being a bad evil overlord if the cute girl you're trying to win gives you pointers on how to be efficiently evil...

[Reason]

I think this is the best place to put this because by the time I finish it'll probably be pretty insulting.  I just want to ask that you don't judge DR by Seraphina, she just has an addiction to posting.  Her goal usually seems to be to stir up trouble and then try to come out looking innocent while everybody around her argues about the idiocy she posts.

She disrupts the DR boards constantly but hardly ever to the point of getting her posts removed. I notice she started out here doing the same thing, writing long posts that are totally off topic and either break rules are walk the line of it.  I stopped reading the DR boards because of the bs posted by her and a few others, I hate to think I'll have to give up reading these too.  Please don't encourage her.

I've been reading these boards for a long time, over a year, and this is the first time I've felt the need to post.  I just wanted to say  

Dellica, go home!  Nobody here cares about your kid, how wonderful you are or your wonderful ideas about how to cheat the system without breaking official rules.

[Sylvado]

Originally Posted by (Reason @ Oct. 07 2002,9:32 pm) I think this is the best place to put this because by the time I finish it'll probably be pretty insulting.  I just want to ask that you don't judge DR by Seraphina, she just has an addiction to posting.  Her goal usually seems to be to stir up trouble and then try to come out looking innocent while everybody around her argues about the idiocy she posts. She disrupts the DR boards constantly but hardly ever to the point of getting her posts removed. I notice she started out here doing the same thing, writing long posts that are totally off topic and either break rules are walk the line of it.  I stopped reading the DR boards because of the bs posted by her and a few others, I hate to think I'll have to give up reading these too.  Please don't encourage her. I've been reading these boards for a long time, over a year, and this is the first time I've felt the need to post.  I just wanted to say   Dellica, go home!  Nobody here cares about your kid, how wonderful you are or your wonderful ideas about how to cheat the system without breaking official rules.

Now we see the difference between a discussion and a flame. The previous post is nothing more than a personal attack (flame).

[Reason]

It my be a flame, but it's on topic. If you read the name of the folder, it is Flames. What's your point?

[Sylvado]

Originally Posted by (Reason @ Oct. 07 2002,11:57 pm) It my be a flame, but it's on topic.  If you read the name of the folder, it is Flames. What's your point?

Never stated that your post did not belong here. There was some discussion about the difference between  a flame and a debate. You just provided a good example so I used it.

[Lovelorn]

:groans: I can't escape it anywhere, they are everywhere I look! okes all the DR players now on board:

To be on Topic...

To flame or not to flame, that is the question.

Typically I think the difference between a debate and a flame session has more to do with the posters themselves.  A true, lively, interesting debate can be derailed by one person coming into it and throwing that first flame.  Then, the other posters often respond in kind (even if previous to that they were eloquent and debating points intelligently)...  That is where the Debate quickly falls down into the flaming abyss of hell. I'd love to see, just once, everyone in a good debate totally ignore the flamer that just came into it.  Flamer doesn't get the desired results which is to derail the discussion, and the interesting debate continues with intelligent reparte.  :nods wishfully:

[Reason]

That was a lovely post lady moonmage, but it doesn't seem to serve any purpose that I can see.  There was no discussion for me to interrupt, and I have no desire to debate with someone who posts only for the attention it'll get her.  

You really don't know what you're talking about, I got exactly the results I wanted.  I said what I had to say without disrupting any boards since that is what this one is for.  I don't expect her to change, people have tried to shut her up for years. I don't want an argument, there's nothing anyone can say to change my opinion of her and her warped view of gaming. I don't need the attention, or I would have been posting a long time ago.

What I would like is for her to just go back to the DR boards and post her drivel there, but I know that's not likely.  I'm more than willing to just post my opinion and ask people not to think that all DR players are the same type of person.  Some of us are quite content with following the rules and don't need to try to find ways to get around them to get ahead.

I may not have written the nicest post, but at least my flames are open rather than white-washed like those in the previous post.  My daddy always said that if you have something to say, say it.  What did yours tell you, if you hide the insults well, nobody will realize you're doing it?

Anyway, have a nice night.

[Lovelorn]

Actually I was in no way responding to your post at all, flame or not.  I honestly was merely surprised to find some DR players posting, chuckled a bit to myself, then responded to the topic at hand with my 'general' opinion.  Tsk, Tsk.  BTW, my daddy always told me if the shoe fit, to wear it.  In this case it seems I can't even get my big toe to fit it comfortably.
I've no desire to whitewash a thing, as a seasoned board denizen, I can assure you of that.

[Shao_Long]

Mmmm... The familiar "I AM L33T J00 R NOT" attitude... Refreshing!
Looking to that innovation post did charged me with hatred towards humanity for like a dozen or two kills. Thanks!

In the name of all that is chaotic...

I have sinned.

I have sinned against good taste and common, both on and off these boards. I'm too ashamed to admit what I have done, for it's just... Too... Horrible. Eris has forsaken me. Is there a place left in this world for someone who did something really stupid, knowingly, willing and actually enjoying it?

I am such a heathen... I don't even deserve death for this!

[The Vorpal Tribble]

I am so self-confident that I did not even read what the other posts were to know exactly what this thread is about. Bow before me, for I AM worthy.

I feel so filthy

I swear, if you ever, EVER meet an interesting girl over the internet, ask for at least 3+ pics prior to doing anything stupid. Trust me on that one; it sucks to find out you were dating trailer park trash, even though i had the luck of losing the bitch before I finally got my hands on some decent pics. The fact she had an AOL account should have warned me...

I have sinned... In the name of Eris, please forgive me my sins

[Delerak]

I'm flaming Armageddon mud:

I think the staff there needs to rethink their priorities! I'll be damned if they are going to break me! They won't have me, they won't have meeeeee! RAAAAAAA!
If I met the overlords IRL I would start battering them unrecognizable! #### it would make Nessalin look better! Haha! I would have to leave the females alone of course, they can't help it if they are bossed around by the male staff. Oh well, go figure, need some more feminism up in there eh? And as for the staff who plays PCs at the same time, go to #### eh? You ruin the mud world like that. You aren't fooling anybody with yer "Let me post as my imm then go back as my player and post" As if we don't know it's you! Jeezus. You aren't that deceptive....hmm yet. Hah. I am on a roll. Hey Bhagharva, that isn't pink eye in all your pictures is it?
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The Scent of Nestequick slowly fades into existance.

Mmmm, chocolate.

Hey to all the rest of you assholes who like to judge me by the reputation, go fondle some more nobles, because I love my reputation! Haha! It's made me infamous, I have people messaging me over aim thinking I am playing that balance-forsaken mud!
"Because Delerak I know you from a mile away!" Hahaha, hilarious! Egan you fool!
I have so much more to dish out but unlike the rest of you however I am going to the gym! Hahaha!

-Delerak
( don't take this post seriously as plenty of you will, bastards..)

sounds like someone has been sniffing sawdust again...

[Delerak]

sounds like ingham has been sniffing herbal essences again...

[Shao_Long]

I am your Only True God, bow down before my power.

(Just a small off-topic, is the w0rd H3LL considered to be swearing? )

[CSmith_Fan]

(This is a reply to a post over in www.againsttcpa.com )

Originally Posted by Do you think this is a good excuse for the US government to take away rights granted to its people in the Bill of Rights?? Have you even looked at the so-called Patriot Act?

Obviously you dont understand my statement....if we're loosing our freedoms then why do we still have the right to speak freely, etc? The only real freedoms that are getting taken away are either by liberals (@nd Amendment and First Amendment via Political Correctness and banning books because it might be offensive) or because of liberal backed organizations. E.L.F. ring a bell? Weather Underground? Also consider that the liberal politicians, mostly in nCalifornia and Arizona are committing felonies and getting away with it..but i wont get into legal issues now..

Originally Posted by Typically Liberals advocate better social services for the general populace at the expense of higher taxes.

Like giving government money to illegal aliens but not for deserving AMERICAN citizens?

Originally Posted by So, now that we've cut taxes in a huge way, and also increased our military spending in a huge way, that obviously leaves much less money for our schools. And you say this is on the liberal agenda? Under Bush? Are you crazy

Ahh..yes..schools where history is re-written to appease some minority that has a non-profit organization with loads of cash backing it....school systems where liberal run/influenced colleges let in people with NO SAT scores that even come close to the required to enter but turn away those who busted butt, got thaty 4.0 GPA and skimped and saved for the tutition only to get turned down because for reasons I wont even discuss here out of respect for Snoozer and the intelligent regs.
remeber Clinton's so called 'buget surplus' ? Funny...the surplus was from a plan Regan initiated..Clinton just took credit for it to increase his popularity polls. As for government spending? Erm...didnt the Democrat led Congress just pass a pay raise for themselves? And how many Americans will go hungry while some Dem like Ted Kennedy sits around eating $1000 meals? If anything..Congress needs a decrease in pay.

quote]Many people here believe the media when they frame stories to make it appear that islam is fundamentally opposed to western ideals[/quote]

Originally Posted by : Actually..it is..since Christianity comprises a vast majority of the populace of the West, Isalm is opposed to it..just like Christians are opposed to Buddists, and Buddists are opposed to Judeoism, etc..

Originally Posted by I rest my case...

Rest what case? You again are obviously not understanding simple english...the media didnt just say one day "Hey! Islam is against Christianity!" Check your history...it's had different ideals for about oh...2000 years. CNN didnt make it up or 'frame' some Islam a few years ago. This of course rests my case that liberal thinking in schools is one of America's problems. Funny thing too...so many want everyone to be equal but still insist on seperate nations..ahh..*sigh* such a huge contradiction..

As for your reply about military spending, etc..I wont even type what i *so* badly want to but will say this...and you can check your facts and see I'm right...

a. the 6 'momos' about a possible 9/11 happening? TWO were in Bush's adminstration..the other 4 were in Clintons.
b. smaller military budget = less intelligence gathering = 9/11. A better example...when Pakistan detonated their first nuke, the CIA didnt know..of course this was while Wild Bill was showing Monica his new cigar and 'the executive branch'

NASA? Ok, they have military personell..but the 'spy' satalites are put up by said military branch's spending..not NASA (ie the Navy or Air Force or CIA foots the bill) Also..their budget goes towards way more than so-called spy ware. Then again, you're probably in the crowd that thinks the lunar landings were a hoax.

Also...Veteran's Benifits?k, dont even go there..so many people in uniform have DIED so you can have the freedom to say "America sucks!" and not get shot 10 seconds later. Also a vast majority of those vets are ones that were in wars liberal presidents led us into..not Republicans. In fact..over 1/2 of the government spending you listed is to make the country run..but I guess you werent awake in HS Government class for that one eh?

Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden and the rest of the middle east terrorists/terrorist backers can care less of you support them..you're still an infidel, you still arent an arabic muslim or Islamic extreemist..therefore you must die..just like the rest of us 100+ million americans.

Yet, people still try to side with the enemy who could care less if some corporation is installing spyware into your compy..or some record label is suing you for DLing MP3s..

If you want to butt heads..go for it. I live for debate with book-learned people who have no clue about IRL..
..and for the record..I'm neither Dem or Rep...

[Eagleon]

*usurps Shao* I am your new god! I've even got an avatar ready if I knew where I could put it reliably. *mutters*

That's why I'm flaming gourds. Who eats them?! They suck. Except dried gourds, they're okay. *goes off and shakes his gourd rattles*