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Shao_Long · 05-12-2002, 05:23 PM

so...whaddya think

Kyandra · 05-12-2002, 05:51 PM

I've learned to enjoy Merk Diku muds and their decsendants. Those which i have seen that cost money... well, I can spend it better on a good book.

Yes I have played pay to play muds, and probably will never again.

Wenlin · 05-13-2002, 01:57 AM

Wait..what's the freakin' question?

From the first sight of the topic, I guessed you were talking about pay-to-play muds...ok, but then you get in and the poll answers revolve around paying imms and the 3rd answer which doesn't really make sense compared to the other two.

Oh well...I picked $$$ makes imms work better, but its not necessary, I'm sure...Wait...what was the question?

I should have nulled my vote...

Shao_Long · 05-13-2002, 09:21 AM

is it so hard to understand ?
the question was pretty clear i think..It was 'do you think imms who get paid work better then imms who dont get paid?'

Jazuela · 05-13-2002, 11:32 AM

It wasn't clear at all. You asked, "to pay or not to pay?"

To pay WHOM? Since this is TopMudSites, and not TopIMMSites, I assumed, naturally, that you were asking whether or not we thought it was a good idea to pay to play a mud.

But since that isn't what you mean, I guess there's no point in me voting because I don't care if a game owner is paying his staff or not. It has no effect on me, unless I'm paying the staff for the privilege of playing the game.

R

Shao_Long · 05-13-2002, 04:27 PM

well..if im so unclear..

Will you play a pay to play mud and what are reasons :
#1 no
#2 yes,cuz imms should be rewarded
#3 yes,cuz you dont care,cuz you can easily afford p2p

Gad · 05-13-2002, 05:00 PM

I thought the question was clear enough. I think that IMMs should work primarily for the love of the MUD, but if they are paid to do something they love I think they will do an even better job of it. I would gladly do my job for free, but then I would have to devote a large amount of my time to making a living some other way. By being paid to do something I love I'm able to focus a good chunck of my time on it and do it very well rather than it just being a hobby.

I also have found that I enjoy MUDs with few IMMs. I'm not sure there is a correlation between the number of IMMs and how much I enjoy a MUD, but the ones I enjoy the most have few IMMs and some of the ones I've hated have a seemingly endless supply of them. Having few IMMs makes a better fit if the IMMs don't have to spend time earning money some other way.

Jazuela · 05-13-2002, 06:05 PM

Well in that case, I still won't take the poll, because you didn't include a "none of the above." I am currently paying to play a game. I don't pay because I like paying, I don't pay because I think IMs should get paid. I pay because the game I really love playing charges for the service. Nothing more, nothing less.

Wenlin · 05-14-2002, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Shao_Long @ May 13 2002,3:27 pm)

well..if im so unclear..

Will you play a pay to play mud and what are reasons :
#1 no
#2 yes,cuz imms should be rewarded
#3 yes,cuz you dont care,cuz you can easily afford p2p

Why didn't you just make the poll answers say that, you're talking in code or something

Just...be more clear the first time and we won't have the problem...unless this is a ploy to mess up, and correct yourself to boost your post count...

Aeledius · 05-28-2002, 10:20 AM

I choose not to pay for the basic reason of: The MUD isn't making any money, I'm not, and as such, neither should my builders. They don't do any more work than me, or any more important work than I do, this is not to say that they don't do work, or that it isn't important, just that mine is just as (I'm the founder and sole coder).

I think once we get to a point where the game is generating funds, greater than the cost of upkeep and we are turning a profit, I shall then look into paying my builders, admins and other staff, and myself. I have resolved not to take any money myself personally until I can do the same at least for the higher ranking staff. All procedes now go straight to upgrades, paying for the line, and hopefully buying a domain name when we get enough.

From what I understand tho, that is a major undertaking and there is a massive amount of red tape involved, especially since I don't have a single builder from the same country as me.

Just my thoughts.
James Meyer
aka Aldyn, Creator and Founder of Aeledius

Dre · 06-18-2002, 05:24 PM

Heya all,

I actually understood what you meant, and I normally have problem understanding people so this is weird

I don't know if Imm's really "deserve" to be paid, I do know I will never pay for a mud. I saw some good pay to play muds but I would do it anyway. I rather spend my money on other stuff, besides I pay for my telephone line already which cost me fortune (yeah I live in one of those country which people are trying to earn on phoning). Besides since there's such an abundance of muds with potential it's really "dumb" to pay for a game that you could play for free somewhere else. ( I know this is harsh, but in some way it's true)

Oh btw I admire Imm's that would give up their regular jobs to work on their dreams and hobbies, I wouldn't dare to do such a thing, and I still won't play your game though

Greetings Dre

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05-12-2002, 05:23 PM	#1
Shao_Long Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: belfast, UK Posts: 505	so...whaddya think

05-12-2002, 05:51 PM	#2
Kyandra Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 67	I've learned to enjoy Merk Diku muds and their decsendants. Those which i have seen that cost money... well, I can spend it better on a good book. Yes I have played pay to play muds, and probably will never again.

05-13-2002, 01:57 AM	#3
Wenlin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: TopMudSites Posts: 315	Wait..what's the freakin' question? From the first sight of the topic, I guessed you were talking about pay-to-play muds...ok, but then you get in and the poll answers revolve around paying imms and the 3rd answer which doesn't really make sense compared to the other two. Oh well...I picked $$$ makes imms work better, but its not necessary, I'm sure...Wait...what was the question? I should have nulled my vote...

05-13-2002, 09:21 AM	#4
Shao_Long Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: belfast, UK Posts: 505	is it so hard to understand ? the question was pretty clear i think..It was 'do you think imms who get paid work better then imms who dont get paid?'

05-13-2002, 11:32 AM	#5
Jazuela Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New England Posts: 608	It wasn't clear at all. You asked, "to pay or not to pay?" To pay WHOM? Since this is TopMudSites, and not TopIMMSites, I assumed, naturally, that you were asking whether or not we thought it was a good idea to pay to play a mud. But since that isn't what you mean, I guess there's no point in me voting because I don't care if a game owner is paying his staff or not. It has no effect on me, unless I'm paying the staff for the privilege of playing the game. R

05-13-2002, 04:27 PM	#6
Shao_Long Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: belfast, UK Posts: 505	well..if im so unclear.. Will you play a pay to play mud and what are reasons : #1 no #2 yes,cuz imms should be rewarded #3 yes,cuz you dont care,cuz you can easily afford p2p

05-13-2002, 05:00 PM	#7
Gad New Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 21	I thought the question was clear enough. I think that IMMs should work primarily for the love of the MUD, but if they are paid to do something they love I think they will do an even better job of it. I would gladly do my job for free, but then I would have to devote a large amount of my time to making a living some other way. By being paid to do something I love I'm able to focus a good chunck of my time on it and do it very well rather than it just being a hobby. I also have found that I enjoy MUDs with few IMMs. I'm not sure there is a correlation between the number of IMMs and how much I enjoy a MUD, but the ones I enjoy the most have few IMMs and some of the ones I've hated have a seemingly endless supply of them. Having few IMMs makes a better fit if the IMMs don't have to spend time earning money some other way.

05-13-2002, 06:05 PM	#8
Jazuela Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New England Posts: 608	Well in that case, I still won't take the poll, because you didn't include a "none of the above." I am currently paying to play a game. I don't pay because I like paying, I don't pay because I think IMs should get paid. I pay because the game I really love playing charges for the service. Nothing more, nothing less.

05-28-2002, 10:20 AM	#10
Aeledius New Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 13	I choose not to pay for the basic reason of: The MUD isn't making any money, I'm not, and as such, neither should my builders. They don't do any more work than me, or any more important work than I do, this is not to say that they don't do work, or that it isn't important, just that mine is just as (I'm the founder and sole coder). I think once we get to a point where the game is generating funds, greater than the cost of upkeep and we are turning a profit, I shall then look into paying my builders, admins and other staff, and myself. I have resolved not to take any money myself personally until I can do the same at least for the higher ranking staff. All procedes now go straight to upgrades, paying for the line, and hopefully buying a domain name when we get enough. From what I understand tho, that is a major undertaking and there is a massive amount of red tape involved, especially since I don't have a single builder from the same country as me. Just my thoughts. James Meyer aka Aldyn, Creator and Founder of Aeledius

06-18-2002, 05:24 PM	#11
Dre Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 65	Heya all, I actually understood what you meant, and I normally have problem understanding people so this is weird I don't know if Imm's really "deserve" to be paid, I do know I will never pay for a mud. I saw some good pay to play muds but I would do it anyway. I rather spend my money on other stuff, besides I pay for my telephone line already which cost me fortune (yeah I live in one of those country which people are trying to earn on phoning). Besides since there's such an abundance of muds with potential it's really "dumb" to pay for a game that you could play for free somewhere else. ( I know this is harsh, but in some way it's true) Oh btw I admire Imm's that would give up their regular jobs to work on their dreams and hobbies, I wouldn't dare to do such a thing, and I still won't play your game though Greetings Dre

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