[nass]

Could someone possibly explain what's happened, I note that they don't seem to be on the list anymore? Did they get booted or did they withdraw, and if the former, exactly what for (just so others like my site arn't making the same mistake).

Thanks in advance!
Nass

[imported_Synozeer]

Medievia was still showing the HELP IVOTE prompt to higher level characters by default, and this prompt would automatically turn back on after 30 days after it was turned off. Vryce decided he would rather not be on the list than follow those rules, and stated he would not change the prompt.

Adam

[prof1515]

So in other words, they are consistently unethical and were cheating YET AGAIN.  May that be the last time their slime is seen about here.  Once a piece of crap, always a piece of crap.  And that sums up Vryce, his dog, and everyone at Medthievia.

Take care,

Jason

[nass]

Well I dunno about that prof1515, but, just to brazenly take advantage of the situation to good-humouredly tease Vryce and Soleil a bit, since Vryce promised he'd shut down Medievia if they didn't get into the top five, and now they can't, let's see if Vryce keeps his word!

Cheers for the reply Synozeer, appreciated.

[prof1515]

Originally Posted by (nass @ Dec. 31 2005,15:47) Well I dunno about that prof1515, but, just to brazenly take advantage of the situation to good-humouredly tease Vryce and Soleil a bit, since Vryce promised he'd shut down Medievia if they didn't get into the top five, and now they can't, let's see if Vryce keeps his word! Cheers for the reply Synozeer, appreciated.

You can't possibly expect pathological liars to keep their word. They'll remain open as long as they can attract insecure children with bank accounts to plop down money to feel like they're not insecure children with bank accounts and so long as noone will or can take any action to stop them from making money through their despicable thievery.

I do second the cheers for Synozeer for booting their/those sorry asses out of here. Way to go!

Take care,

Jason

[mild mudder]

I'd like to point out to prof1515 that it was Vryce's own playerbase who began the threads against him. And they did it because it was bull and it needed to be stopped before it spread.

My point? Quit bashing the entirety of the playerbase. Quite a few know what's right and what's wrong, and Medievia is losing more players all the time, whether V acknowledges that or not. And you don't want to help ruin your mud's chances of attracting those players, therefore increasing your own base, do you?

Think about what you say before you say it. That's all I have to say.

-mm

[prof1515]

Originally Posted by (mild mudder @ Dec. 31 2005,16:39) I'd like to point out to prof1515 that it was Vryce's own playerbase who began the threads against him.  And they did it because it was bull and it needed to be stopped before it spread. My point?  Quit bashing the entirety of the playerbase.  Quite a few know what's right and what's wrong, and Medievia is losing more players all the time, whether V acknowledges that or not.  And you don't want to help ruin your mud's chances of attracting those players, therefore increasing your own base, do you? Think about what you say before you say it.  That's all I have to say. -mm

This wasn't the first unethical act by Medievia (and I doubt it'll be the last). One wrong's fine but two isn't? The playerbase has to be aware of that and yet they still play. Now, if they're not aware, my apologies to those who aren't and I suggest they look into it. It's not hard to learn all the details of Medievia's disgraceful history (or just read Medievia's own take on it and realize the exact opposite is true).

As for recruiting from Medievia's pbase, I doubt I'll likely appeal to many of them as we're an RPI with a heavy emphasis on socio-cultural RP rather than H&S or even combat-emphasized RP. However, they're all welcome to try the MUD when we open in a few years even if I doubt it'll appeal to the vast majority of them.

Take care,

Jason

[Davairus]

Maybe they've forecasted receiving more overall traffic from all the other sites they list at using their new vote system, compared to what they'd get overall if they also complied with topmudsites. It'd be presumptious to assume he's just behaving like a baby, when there are obvious logical conclusions to make here... I'm not taking sides here you understand, I just wished to point out that there is an alternative more reasonable explanation for what they've decided to do. For the record.

[betrayed.by.gods]

Originally Posted by (nass @ Dec. 31 2005,15:47) Vryce promised he'd shut down Medievia if they didn't get into the top five, and now they can't, let's see if Vryce keeps his word!

well, according to Mr. Krause himself,

Recent imms containing vryce:
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[Sat Dec 31 224] Vryce(148):: I turned the whole ivote thing off last restart and removed us from the toptensites list
[Sat Dec 31 225] Vryce(148):: we are just sick of the babies there
[Sat Dec 31 225] Vryce(148):: we asked to be removed
[Sat Dec 31 225] Vryce(148):: I asked adam the owner to give me a nice quote to tell my players as to why we did it
[Sat Dec 31 225] Vryce(148):: not sure he is man enough to give it to me
[Sat Dec 31 227] Vryce(148):: the thing with the polls are that you get very sticky people. They already know and like muds, when they find medievia its like t hey died and went to heaven, very sticky marketing
[Sat Dec 31 227] Vryce(148):: I am just sick of all the babies that run the other muds
[Sat Dec 31 227] Vryce(148):: post good reviews of medievia on topmudsites to **** them off

[Daedroth]

Wow... and just think, all those flames were for nothing. You complained and fought each other all for no gain, and then they get up and leave for something as small as that. ROFL  

[prof1515]

Sounds like he was upset that they couldn't cheat and as a result couldn't make it to #1 and realized eventually, when the novelty of voting had worn off (just like it does for many MUDs), their votes would decline and they'd end up getting shown up by the legitimate commercial MUDs.

Can't be #1. Can't cheat to be #1. Take ball and go home.

Sounds like that's what happened.

Take care,

Jason

P.S.--Adam was "man enough" to let them go. Too bad Vryce isn't man enough to admit he's a thief and make amends. As has been said many a time. Good riddance to bad trash.

[betrayed.by.gods]

Vryce is my hero. I was going to retire from medievia completely, but it's so amusing to see what he posts to immortal channel. I wish I were so delusional, would probably help my self esteem, as it seems to have already helped his.

[Davairus]

Ok. A rational explanation is now completely out of the question, then. I'll just comment with a "wah wah wah" due to my wasted braincells thinking one up.

[littleduckie]

There were several explanations over several occasions by the game owners to explain the move (particularly ones by Soleil).

betrayed by gods, as he has had been doing, just once again chose to selectively paste the most controversial sounding immlogs related to this issue as it serves his agenda.

[Anitra]

littleduckie @ Jan. 01 2006,132

Originally Posted by There were several explanations over several occasions by the game owners to explain the move (particularly ones by Soleil).

And what might those explanations have been?
Please share them with us.

It's always so entertaining watching Soleil tying herself into a knot while trying to explain the actions of Vryce.

Face it, littleduckie. The game that you play is an unethical game, run by unethical people. They tried to cheat once to often, got caught in the act, and that's that.

Good riddance. Few people on this site will miss them.

[WarHound]

Let's try to forget this entire fiasco, and never post the 'm' word again, mmm?

Yes, they suck. It's terrible. Your mud is obviously better, no? Go play it.

-WP

[the_logos]

Originally Posted by (prof1515 @ Dec. 31 2005,15:56) They'll remain open as long as they can attract insecure children with bank accounts to plop down money to feel like they're not insecure children with bank accounts and so long as noone will or can take any action to stop them from making money through their despicable thievery.

Although obviously Medievia deserved to be kicked off the list and although obviously Vyrce seems like a complete jerk, let's not blame the players. I mean, I think it's horrible of google to censor sites out in China at the behest of the Chinese government, just so they can make more money, but I hardly think it's appropriate to slam everyone who uses Google because of that.

Still, I have to say, Medievia's rampant cheating and refusal to play fair makes me regret ever wasting my time trying to be nice to them. I'm just glad they're gone and that they had to run out with their tail between their proverbial legs, unable to beat MUDs that compete within the rules. Good riddance.
--matt

[mammitu]

Would like to point out that Medievia still has banners on topmudsites.com. I assume they paid for the advertsing though, no? And medievia is still listed on topmudsites' mud listing.

Medievia is still listed

Just becuase it had to be pointed out..

[Valg]

Thanks for making that call, Synozeer. Good to see that everyone plays by the same rules here. Bad to see that Vryce is still Vryce.

[GuruPlayer]

I see one of the Medithievia fans is doing Vryce's bidding ([Sat Dec 31 227] Vryce(148):: post good reviews of medievia on topmudsites to **** them off) & revived the Medithievia promotions thread.  Geez, I tried their MUD before I found out about their lack of morals, & I can't understand why anyone would want to play on it, 4 classes only & boring as hell.  They are living proof, with every new player, that there is a sucker born every minute.

[Ilkidarios]

Well, it's good to know that now nobody will talk about this whole "Medievia" thing anymore...  Oh wait...

But anyways, now that humor is out of the way, my only concern is IRE holding a monopoly on the top two slots.  I hope Aardwolf can hold out like it has so far.  Not that IRE is some sort of "evil empire", I just wouldn't like to see ANY companies' MUDs hold the first and second places.

[tyreblood]

Originally Posted by (mild mudder @ Dec. 31 2005,16:39) My point? Quit bashing the entirety of the playerbase. Quite a few know what's right and what's wrong, and Medievia is losing more players all the time, whether V acknowledges that or not. And you don't want to help ruin your mud's chances of attracting those players, therefore increasing your own base, do you? -mm

I disagree with this statement wholeheartedly. Medievia WAS losing players for awhile, but since the new advertising agenda has started, the playerbase has increased steadily. I myself have noticed this increase in 'real' newbies.

Many newbies send me notes, link me, or even just walk into my room and tell me that they started med because of my posts on this very mudsite.

So thank-you topmudsites!

--Tyreblood (Med player for 6 yrs and running!

[Zivilyn]

Um, apparently your posts under another name? (You've got a few more than me with 6 ;p )

[Estarra]

Originally Posted by (Ilkidarios @ Jan. 03 2006,17<!--emo&[img http://www.topmudsites.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif[/img])]But anyways, now that humor is out of the way, my only concern is IRE holding a monopoly on the top two slots.  I hope Aardwolf can hold out like it has so far.  Not that IRE is some sort of "evil empire", I just wouldn't like to see ANY companies' MUDs hold the first and second places.

Not that it may make much difference to you, but while the IRE games operate with uniform business practices and have to answer to certain quality assurance standards, each is also run as a separate entity insofar as each game’s producer has their own vision and develop their games on separate arcs.

Saying that you’d rather not see two IRE games be in the top slots is rather like saying “The Aviator” and “Finding Neverland” shouldn’t have both been nominated for Best Picture because they were both produced by the same studio--Miramax. Or that “Sim City” and “Ultima Online” shouldn’t be nominated for best game of the year because they are both produced by Electronic Arts.

In other words, I feel I’ve poured a lot of my soul into Lusternia (which I’m sure is a familiar feeling of most other MUD producers) and feel it stands on its own merits irregardless of whether IRE is its parent or not.

Anyway...yeah...just wanted to say that... and that Lusternia is by far the best MUD ever and deserves to be the Number One because...um, well, I say so...

[Hephos]

Just out of curiosity, medievia was removed from the voting list, but they still are allowed to rotate a banner? Sounds like double-standards to me

[DonathinFrye]

Originally Posted by Just out of curiosity, medievia was removed from the voting list, but they still are allowed to rotate a banner? Sounds like double-standards to me

I would venture to guess that they had paid for the rotation before their removal from the site, and therefor will be granted to let the ad-banner run its course.

[Ilkidarios]

Do you have to be on the list in order to air banners? Seems like that would be against good business sense.

[Threshold]

DonathinFrye, are you aware that your signature file is 17 lines long?

Isn't that a little bit... well... excessive?

I imagine that at some resolutions, your signature is almost an entire page of text.

Someone refresh my memory. Isn't common netiquette 2-4 lines or somewhere around there?

[DonathinFrye]

Originally Posted by DonathinFrye, are you aware that your signature file is 17 lines long? Isn't that a little bit... well... excessive? I imagine that at some resolutions, your signature is almost an entire page of text. Someone refresh my memory. Isn't common netiquette 2-4 lines or somewhere around there?

Gee, thanks for instructing me in "netiquette". I'm actually new to forums(and have avoided writing in them for many years until out of recent necessity). However, I am pretty sure that "netiquette" also dictates that we're supposed to stay on topic in this forum. Maybe there's a flame folder somewhere around here you can post something about my unfortunately lengthy signature on.

Topic? Medieveia gone? Yep, it is - except on the banner rotation. Not sure if they will continue to have banner space here, one can never really tell with administers like Vryce. I am curious what Syno thinks about it, but I won't lose sleep about it one way or another.

[Juganothion]

I can't see them being removed for reminding people to vote on their prompt.

As just recently IRE started a new advertising scheme by adding an option to add a function to tell you when you can vote again to your prompt.

But maybe that's just a clever way to get around the rules, I dunno.