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nass · 12-31-2005, 08:01 AM

Could someone possibly explain what's happened, I note that they don't seem to be on the list anymore? Did they get booted or did they withdraw, and if the former, exactly what for (just so others like my site arn't making the same mistake).

Thanks in advance!
Nass

imported_Synozeer · 12-31-2005, 11:54 AM

Medievia was still showing the HELP IVOTE prompt to higher level characters by default, and this prompt would automatically turn back on after 30 days after it was turned off. Vryce decided he would rather not be on the list than follow those rules, and stated he would not change the prompt.

Adam

prof1515 · 12-31-2005, 02:28 PM

So in other words, they are consistently unethical and were cheating YET AGAIN. May that be the last time their slime is seen about here. Once a piece of crap, always a piece of crap. And that sums up Vryce, his dog, and everyone at Medthievia.

Take care,

Jason

nass · 12-31-2005, 02:47 PM

Well I dunno about that prof1515, but, just to brazenly take advantage of the situation to good-humouredly tease Vryce and Soleil a bit, since Vryce promised he'd shut down Medievia if they didn't get into the top five, and now they can't, let's see if Vryce keeps his word!

Cheers for the reply Synozeer, appreciated.

prof1515 · 12-31-2005, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (nass @ Dec. 31 2005,15:47)

Well I dunno about that prof1515, but, just to brazenly take advantage of the situation to good-humouredly tease Vryce and Soleil a bit, since Vryce promised he'd shut down Medievia if they didn't get into the top five, and now they can't, let's see if Vryce keeps his word!

Cheers for the reply Synozeer, appreciated.

You can't possibly expect pathological liars to keep their word. They'll remain open as long as they can attract insecure children with bank accounts to plop down money to feel like they're not insecure children with bank accounts and so long as noone will or can take any action to stop them from making money through their despicable thievery.

I do second the cheers for Synozeer for booting their/those sorry asses out of here. Way to go!

Take care,

Jason

mild mudder · 12-31-2005, 03:39 PM

I'd like to point out to prof1515 that it was Vryce's own playerbase who began the threads against him. And they did it because it was bull and it needed to be stopped before it spread.

My point? Quit bashing the entirety of the playerbase. Quite a few know what's right and what's wrong, and Medievia is losing more players all the time, whether V acknowledges that or not. And you don't want to help ruin your mud's chances of attracting those players, therefore increasing your own base, do you?

Think about what you say before you say it. That's all I have to say.

-mm

prof1515 · 12-31-2005, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (mild mudder @ Dec. 31 2005,16:39)

I'd like to point out to prof1515 that it was Vryce's own playerbase who began the threads against him. And they did it because it was bull and it needed to be stopped before it spread.

My point? Quit bashing the entirety of the playerbase. Quite a few know what's right and what's wrong, and Medievia is losing more players all the time, whether V acknowledges that or not. And you don't want to help ruin your mud's chances of attracting those players, therefore increasing your own base, do you?

Think about what you say before you say it. That's all I have to say.

-mm

This wasn't the first unethical act by Medievia (and I doubt it'll be the last). One wrong's fine but two isn't? The playerbase has to be aware of that and yet they still play. Now, if they're not aware, my apologies to those who aren't and I suggest they look into it. It's not hard to learn all the details of Medievia's disgraceful history (or just read Medievia's own take on it and realize the exact opposite is true).

As for recruiting from Medievia's pbase, I doubt I'll likely appeal to many of them as we're an RPI with a heavy emphasis on socio-cultural RP rather than H&S or even combat-emphasized RP. However, they're all welcome to try the MUD when we open in a few years even if I doubt it'll appeal to the vast majority of them.

Take care,

Jason

Davairus · 12-31-2005, 09:41 PM

Maybe they've forecasted receiving more overall traffic from all the other sites they list at using their new vote system, compared to what they'd get overall if they also complied with topmudsites. It'd be presumptious to assume he's just behaving like a baby, when there are obvious logical conclusions to make here... I'm not taking sides here you understand, I just wished to point out that there is an alternative more reasonable explanation for what they've decided to do. For the record.

betrayed.by.gods · 12-31-2005, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (nass @ Dec. 31 2005,15:47)

Vryce promised he'd shut down Medievia if they didn't get into the top five, and now they can't, let's see if Vryce keeps his word!

well, according to Mr. Krause himself,

Recent imms containing vryce:
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[Sat Dec 31 22

4] Vryce(148):: I turned the whole ivote thing off last restart and removed us from the toptensites list
[Sat Dec 31 22

5] Vryce(148):: we are just sick of the babies there
[Sat Dec 31 22

5] Vryce(148):: we asked to be removed
[Sat Dec 31 22

5] Vryce(148):: I asked adam the owner to give me a nice quote to tell my players as to why we did it
[Sat Dec 31 22

5] Vryce(148):: not sure he is man enough to give it to me
[Sat Dec 31 22

7] Vryce(148):: the thing with the polls are that you get very sticky people. They already know and like muds, when they find medievia its like t hey died and went to heaven, very sticky marketing
[Sat Dec 31 22

7] Vryce(148):: I am just sick of all the babies that run the other muds
[Sat Dec 31 22

7] Vryce(148):: post good reviews of medievia on topmudsites to **** them off

Daedroth · 12-31-2005, 09:55 PM

Wow... and just think, all those flames were for nothing. You complained and fought each other all for no gain, and then they get up and leave for something as small as that. ROFL

prof1515 · 12-31-2005, 10:22 PM

Sounds like he was upset that they couldn't cheat and as a result couldn't make it to #1 and realized eventually, when the novelty of voting had worn off (just like it does for many MUDs), their votes would decline and they'd end up getting shown up by the legitimate commercial MUDs.

Can't be #1. Can't cheat to be #1. Take ball and go home.

Sounds like that's what happened.

Take care,

Jason

P.S.--Adam was "man enough" to let them go. Too bad Vryce isn't man enough to admit he's a thief and make amends. As has been said many a time. Good riddance to bad trash.

betrayed.by.gods · 12-31-2005, 10:59 PM

Vryce is my hero. I was going to retire from medievia completely, but it's so amusing to see what he posts to immortal channel. I wish I were so delusional, would probably help my self esteem, as it seems to have already helped his.

Davairus · 01-01-2006, 03:20 AM

Ok. A rational explanation is now completely out of the question, then. I'll just comment with a "wah wah wah" due to my wasted braincells thinking one up.

littleduckie · 01-01-2006, 12:02 PM

There were several explanations over several occasions by the game owners to explain the move (particularly ones by Soleil).

betrayed by gods, as he has had been doing, just once again chose to selectively paste the most controversial sounding immlogs related to this issue as it serves his agenda.

Anitra · 01-01-2006, 02:18 PM

littleduckie @ Jan. 01 2006,13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by

There were several explanations over several occasions by the game owners to explain the move (particularly ones by Soleil).

And what might those explanations have been?
Please share them with us.

It's always so entertaining watching Soleil tying herself into a knot while trying to explain the actions of Vryce.

Face it, littleduckie. The game that you play is an unethical game, run by unethical people. They tried to cheat once to often, got caught in the act, and that's that.

Good riddance. Few people on this site will miss them.

WarHound · 01-01-2006, 03:23 PM

Let's try to forget this entire fiasco, and never post the 'm' word again, mmm?

Yes, they suck. It's terrible. Your mud is obviously better, no? Go play it.

-WP

the_logos · 01-01-2006, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (prof1515 @ Dec. 31 2005,15:56)

They'll remain open as long as they can attract insecure children with bank accounts to plop down money to feel like they're not insecure children with bank accounts and so long as noone will or can take any action to stop them from making money through their despicable thievery.

Although obviously Medievia deserved to be kicked off the list and although obviously Vyrce seems like a complete jerk, let's not blame the players. I mean, I think it's horrible of google to censor sites out in China at the behest of the Chinese government, just so they can make more money, but I hardly think it's appropriate to slam everyone who uses Google because of that.

Still, I have to say, Medievia's rampant cheating and refusal to play fair makes me regret ever wasting my time trying to be nice to them. I'm just glad they're gone and that they had to run out with their tail between their proverbial legs, unable to beat MUDs that compete within the rules. Good riddance.
--matt

mammitu · 01-01-2006, 10:17 PM

Would like to point out that Medievia still has banners on topmudsites.com. I assume they paid for the advertsing though, no? And medievia is still listed on topmudsites' mud listing.

Medievia is still listed

Just becuase it had to be pointed out..

Valg · 01-02-2006, 02:56 PM

Thanks for making that call, Synozeer. Good to see that everyone plays by the same rules here. Bad to see that Vryce is still Vryce.

GuruPlayer · 01-02-2006, 08:58 PM

I see one of the Medithievia fans is doing Vryce's bidding ([Sat Dec 31 227] Vryce(148):: post good reviews of medievia on topmudsites to **** them off) & revived the Medithievia promotions thread. Geez, I tried their MUD before I found out about their lack of morals, & I can't understand why anyone would want

12-31-2005, 08:01 AM	#1
nass Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 123	Could someone possibly explain what's happened, I note that they don't seem to be on the list anymore? Did they get booted or did they withdraw, and if the former, exactly what for (just so others like my site arn't making the same mistake). Thanks in advance! Nass

12-31-2005, 11:54 AM	#2
imported_Synozeer Super Administrators Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 88	Medievia was still showing the HELP IVOTE prompt to higher level characters by default, and this prompt would automatically turn back on after 30 days after it was turned off. Vryce decided he would rather not be on the list than follow those rules, and stated he would not change the prompt. Adam

12-31-2005, 02:28 PM	#3
prof1515 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 471	So in other words, they are consistently unethical and were cheating YET AGAIN. May that be the last time their slime is seen about here. Once a piece of crap, always a piece of crap. And that sums up Vryce, his dog, and everyone at Medthievia. Take care, Jason

12-31-2005, 02:47 PM	#4
nass Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 123	Well I dunno about that prof1515, but, just to brazenly take advantage of the situation to good-humouredly tease Vryce and Soleil a bit, since Vryce promised he'd shut down Medievia if they didn't get into the top five, and now they can't, let's see if Vryce keeps his word! Cheers for the reply Synozeer, appreciated.

12-31-2005, 03:39 PM	#6
mild mudder New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11	I'd like to point out to prof1515 that it was Vryce's own playerbase who began the threads against him. And they did it because it was bull and it needed to be stopped before it spread. My point? Quit bashing the entirety of the playerbase. Quite a few know what's right and what's wrong, and Medievia is losing more players all the time, whether V acknowledges that or not. And you don't want to help ruin your mud's chances of attracting those players, therefore increasing your own base, do you? Think about what you say before you say it. That's all I have to say. -mm

12-31-2005, 09:41 PM	#8
Davairus Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 142	Maybe they've forecasted receiving more overall traffic from all the other sites they list at using their new vote system, compared to what they'd get overall if they also complied with topmudsites. It'd be presumptious to assume he's just behaving like a baby, when there are obvious logical conclusions to make here... I'm not taking sides here you understand, I just wished to point out that there is an alternative more reasonable explanation for what they've decided to do. For the record.

12-31-2005, 09:55 PM	#10
Daedroth Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 56	Wow... and just think, all those flames were for nothing. You complained and fought each other all for no gain, and then they get up and leave for something as small as that. ROFL

12-31-2005, 10:22 PM	#11
prof1515 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 471	Sounds like he was upset that they couldn't cheat and as a result couldn't make it to #1 and realized eventually, when the novelty of voting had worn off (just like it does for many MUDs), their votes would decline and they'd end up getting shown up by the legitimate commercial MUDs. Can't be #1. Can't cheat to be #1. Take ball and go home. Sounds like that's what happened. Take care, Jason P.S.--Adam was "man enough" to let them go. Too bad Vryce isn't man enough to admit he's a thief and make amends. As has been said many a time. Good riddance to bad trash.

12-31-2005, 10:59 PM	#12
betrayed.by.gods New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 13	Vryce is my hero. I was going to retire from medievia completely, but it's so amusing to see what he posts to immortal channel. I wish I were so delusional, would probably help my self esteem, as it seems to have already helped his.

01-01-2006, 03:20 AM	#13
Davairus Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 142	Ok. A rational explanation is now completely out of the question, then. I'll just comment with a "wah wah wah" due to my wasted braincells thinking one up.

01-01-2006, 12:02 PM	#14
littleduckie New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2	There were several explanations over several occasions by the game owners to explain the move (particularly ones by Soleil). betrayed by gods, as he has had been doing, just once again chose to selectively paste the most controversial sounding immlogs related to this issue as it serves his agenda.

01-01-2006, 03:23 PM	#16
WarHound Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Locked in a place where no one goes... Posts: 169	Let's try to forget this entire fiasco, and never post the 'm' word again, mmm? Yes, they suck. It's terrible. Your mud is obviously better, no? Go play it. -WP

01-01-2006, 10:17 PM	#18
mammitu New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1	Would like to point out that Medievia still has banners on topmudsites.com. I assume they paid for the advertsing though, no? And medievia is still listed on topmudsites' mud listing. Medievia is still listed Just becuase it had to be pointed out..

01-02-2006, 02:56 PM	#19
Valg Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Home MUD: Carrion Fields Posts: 641	Thanks for making that call, Synozeer. Good to see that everyone plays by the same rules here. Bad to see that Vryce is still Vryce.

01-02-2006, 08:58 PM	#20
GuruPlayer Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 73	I see one of the Medithievia fans is doing Vryce's bidding ([Sat Dec 31 227] Vryce(148):: post good reviews of medievia on topmudsites to **** them off) & revived the Medithievia promotions thread. Geez, I tried their MUD before I found out about their lack of morals, & I can't understand why anyone would want

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