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09-08-2002, 03:41 PM

Achaea, Dreams of Divine Lands
"I don't think there's another game in existence with this much depth." -- John Romero, co-founder of id Software. Two full-time coders. Completely custom world and code. Over 800 spells and abilities. 250+ players during the day.

This is the best joke on TMS ever! Kudos to whoever thought of that one! ^_^ And for those of you who don't get it, John Romero spent ages working on a game, summoning powerful marketing forces to hype his game into god-like status even before it was released. This was also his best time because when the game was released, it turned out to be using an outdated rendering engine, unoriginal concepts and storylines and buggy at best, exactly the opposite of what John Romero's marketroids had made it out to be. Ever since then, John Romero and his game, "Daikatana" have been used as homonyms to the words "failure" and "catastrophe". Compare it to Black & White with Peter Molyneux, but on a bigger scale back then. Or Doom 3 with John Carmack, whic I believe is going to end like a disaster as well.

Note:
Another funny tidbit would be that John Romero feels that graphics are better then gameplay. Then why does he rate MUDs? And out of all things, rate them positively?

Santrilla · 09-08-2002, 09:11 PM

God, Daikatana was embarressingly bad. The enemies would literally walk straight into your line of fire and stand there before they even noticed you. Ahh, the good old days of gaming.

It's interesting, because there is always the possiblity that Achaea was the first game John ever played and he got all his inspiration from it... except, of course, for the fact that MU**s are quite a recent thing and he, well, isn't.

Life is a strange cookie sometimes...

Incidentally, I hate to sound like an all-out, horrible newbie, but what does MUSH actually stand for? I've been told, but I forgot. Honestly, mind like a sieve, that's me.

Wenlin · 09-08-2002, 09:16 PM

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Santrilla · 09-08-2002, 09:32 PM

Wow. So basically, it's like getting a room full of people and then giving them all magic mushrooms? WKD.

Shao_Long · 09-13-2002, 05:13 AM

well, oh well...
every frog says its marsh is the best...
Maybe that Romero had enough brains to play mud ?.. althought its kinda hard to believe..

Dulan · 09-13-2002, 02:35 PM

By the same token, it's almost impossible to believe you have the brains to post on a message board, much less mud, Shao.

-D

Shao_Long · 09-13-2002, 06:18 PM

look who's talking

yet, much to your dismay, I really post on message boards time to time, and play on MUD too... Actually, I could never understand, how one of my brain capabilities can play MUD, but still... I do my best !

Ike · 09-13-2002, 08:32 PM

Apparently Achaea has changed their description...

I wonder if it was because of this thread.

GenmaC · 09-14-2002, 03:34 AM

Is it just me, or does Achaea use the Avalon RPG codebase? That was the first MUD I ever played (just the free trial, I'll be f**ked if I ever pay for a MUD), and the skill/learning/etc system is almost exactly like Avalon RPG's system(s).

Shao_Long · 09-14-2002, 06:01 PM

thats what I thought, too...

Yuki · 09-14-2002, 07:49 PM

I swear the name of it was 'Acheaeaea (sp?) Dreams of Avalon' or something way back when. I am glad to see someone tipped them off to this board so they can monopolize the voting :)

I find it extra funny that due to this thread, they changed their description, the same one I've seen on mudconnector for like... 4 years? Or more even.

It makes me laugh like a giddy asian schoolgirl.

GenmaC · 09-14-2002, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Yuki @ Sep. 14 2002,6:49 pm)

I am glad to see someone tipped them off to this board so they can monopolize the voting

At least Realms of Despair, which has to be the blandest MUD ever, gets knocked down a notch.

Ike · 09-15-2002, 12:08 AM

I agree. Realms of Depair sucks.

Shao_Long · 09-15-2002, 02:09 AM

lets dont get to personals here...
Ike sucks !

09-15-2002, 04:55 PM

Why do you two think RoD sucks then? Instead of just saying it sucks, give reasons like GenmaC did. Personaly I find that RoD has both very good and very bad points, but in general is decent enough to try it anyways to see if you like it or not. So don't give us vague opinions, give us clear opinions backed by explanations of what you think is wrong and what's not

GenmaC · 09-15-2002, 10:07 PM

Moving away from the RoD issue, I have to say I really enjoy Achaea. I started on Avalon RPG, as I think I just said, and it really has a great intro.

Now that I've "rediscovered" it, I use it to introduce my less MUD-literate friends to MUDding.

Ike · 09-15-2002, 10:18 PM

Realms of Despair sucks.

Shao_Long · 09-15-2002, 11:10 PM

I have nothing against Achaea.. When I wanted to see, what is it about, I can say its not bad at all.. Simply Im too big fan of RoD to play any other mud

Ike floods ! <--- at least thats truth

Yuki · 09-16-2002, 01:40 AM

Is Ike's picture a blurry photo of a girl giving head?

funny. heehee.

I've never played RoD. I've never played Acheaeaeaea. I'm sure they're both good in some respects.

Personally, mu*'s are boring. I just like coding and seeing people play with the stuff.

09-16-2002, 04:57 AM

One day, when/if I'll grow up, I'll become a perverted porn-peddling programmer like Yuki is!

And if that's a pic of a girl giving head then I'm really GWB...

GenmaC · 09-16-2002, 04:05 PM

Programming MUDs is boringer that crap, imho.

Thusly I no longer indulge. All MUDs have worn their charm away...I had great fun with Daedal Macabre for a while, but everything gets stale after a while...

I'm sure Achaea will wear off too. Not sure why, but MUDs just haven't been grabbing me lately...

Maybe I'm getting too old for them.

09-08-2002, 03:41 PM	#1
Ingham Posts: n/a	Achaea, Dreams of Divine Lands "I don't think there's another game in existence with this much depth." -- John Romero, co-founder of id Software. Two full-time coders. Completely custom world and code. Over 800 spells and abilities. 250+ players during the day. This is the best joke on TMS ever! Kudos to whoever thought of that one! ^_^ And for those of you who don't get it, John Romero spent ages working on a game, summoning powerful marketing forces to hype his game into god-like status even before it was released. This was also his best time because when the game was released, it turned out to be using an outdated rendering engine, unoriginal concepts and storylines and buggy at best, exactly the opposite of what John Romero's marketroids had made it out to be. Ever since then, John Romero and his game, "Daikatana" have been used as homonyms to the words "failure" and "catastrophe". Compare it to Black & White with Peter Molyneux, but on a bigger scale back then. Or Doom 3 with John Carmack, whic I believe is going to end like a disaster as well. Note: Another funny tidbit would be that John Romero feels that graphics are better then gameplay. Then why does he rate MUDs? And out of all things, rate them positively?

09-08-2002, 09:11 PM	#2
Santrilla Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brighton, England Posts: 387	God, Daikatana was embarressingly bad. The enemies would literally walk straight into your line of fire and stand there before they even noticed you. Ahh, the good old days of gaming. It's interesting, because there is always the possiblity that Achaea was the first game John ever played and he got all his inspiration from it... except, of course, for the fact that MU**s are quite a recent thing and he, well, isn't. Life is a strange cookie sometimes... Incidentally, I hate to sound like an all-out, horrible newbie, but what does MUSH actually stand for? I've been told, but I forgot. Honestly, mind like a sieve, that's me.

09-08-2002, 09:16 PM	#3
Wenlin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: TopMudSites Posts: 315	Multi User Shared Hallucination If you don't believe me, discover AcronymFinder http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-quer....nd=Find

09-08-2002, 09:32 PM	#4
Santrilla Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brighton, England Posts: 387	Wow. So basically, it's like getting a room full of people and then giving them all magic mushrooms? WKD.

09-13-2002, 05:13 AM	#5
Shao_Long Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: belfast, UK Posts: 505	well, oh well... every frog says its marsh is the best... Maybe that Romero had enough brains to play mud ?.. althought its kinda hard to believe..

09-13-2002, 02:35 PM	#6
Dulan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 354	By the same token, it's almost impossible to believe you have the brains to post on a message board, much less mud, Shao. -D

09-13-2002, 06:18 PM	#7
Shao_Long Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: belfast, UK Posts: 505	look who's talking yet, much to your dismay, I really post on message boards time to time, and play on MUD too... Actually, I could never understand, how one of my brain capabilities can play MUD, but still... I do my best !

09-13-2002, 08:32 PM	#8
Ike Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 62	Apparently Achaea has changed their description... I wonder if it was because of this thread.

09-14-2002, 03:34 AM	#9
GenmaC Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 68	Is it just me, or does Achaea use the Avalon RPG codebase? That was the first MUD I ever played (just the free trial, I'll be f**ked if I ever pay for a MUD), and the skill/learning/etc system is almost exactly like Avalon RPG's system(s).

09-14-2002, 06:01 PM	#10
Shao_Long Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: belfast, UK Posts: 505	thats what I thought, too...

09-14-2002, 07:49 PM	#11
Yuki Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: My laptop, my apt, Columbus, Ohio, USA Posts: 42	I swear the name of it was 'Acheaeaea (sp?) Dreams of Avalon' or something way back when. I am glad to see someone tipped them off to this board so they can monopolize the voting :) I find it extra funny that due to this thread, they changed their description, the same one I've seen on mudconnector for like... 4 years? Or more even. It makes me laugh like a giddy asian schoolgirl.

09-15-2002, 12:08 AM	#13
Ike Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 62	I agree. Realms of Depair sucks.

09-15-2002, 02:09 AM	#14
Shao_Long Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: belfast, UK Posts: 505	lets dont get to personals here... Ike sucks !

09-15-2002, 04:55 PM	#15
Ingham Posts: n/a	Why do you two think RoD sucks then? Instead of just saying it sucks, give reasons like GenmaC did. Personaly I find that RoD has both very good and very bad points, but in general is decent enough to try it anyways to see if you like it or not. So don't give us vague opinions, give us clear opinions backed by explanations of what you think is wrong and what's not

09-15-2002, 10:07 PM	#16
GenmaC Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 68	Moving away from the RoD issue, I have to say I really enjoy Achaea. I started on Avalon RPG, as I think I just said, and it really has a great intro. Now that I've "rediscovered" it, I use it to introduce my less MUD-literate friends to MUDding.

09-15-2002, 10:18 PM	#17
Ike Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 62	Realms of Despair sucks.

09-15-2002, 11:10 PM	#18
Shao_Long Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: belfast, UK Posts: 505	I have nothing against Achaea.. When I wanted to see, what is it about, I can say its not bad at all.. Simply Im too big fan of RoD to play any other mud Ike floods ! <--- at least thats truth

09-16-2002, 01:40 AM	#19
Yuki Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: My laptop, my apt, Columbus, Ohio, USA Posts: 42	Is Ike's picture a blurry photo of a girl giving head? funny. heehee. I've never played RoD. I've never played Acheaeaeaea. I'm sure they're both good in some respects. Personally, mu*'s are boring. I just like coding and seeing people play with the stuff.

09-16-2002, 04:57 AM	#20
Ingham Posts: n/a	One day, when/if I'll grow up, I'll become a perverted porn-peddling programmer like Yuki is! And if that's a pic of a girl giving head then I'm really GWB...

09-16-2002, 04:05 PM	#21
GenmaC Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 68	Programming MUDs is boringer that crap, imho. Thusly I no longer indulge. All MUDs have worn their charm away...I had great fun with Daedal Macabre for a while, but everything gets stale after a while... I'm sure Achaea will wear off too. Not sure why, but MUDs just haven't been grabbing me lately... Maybe I'm getting too old for them.

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09-16-2002, 04:26 PM	#22
Yuki Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: My laptop, my apt, Columbus, O