On their website there is a message that it's going Open Source. Does this mean free, as well?...

[lovechiefs]

should mean that.Open source software is usually supposed free.If the Portal guys say open source,but still charge,they will get lots of flak from the open source community

[Mabus]

Originally Posted by Violette On their website there is a message that it's going Open Source. Does this mean free, as well?...

It depends on how they define "Open Source", and the license they release the software under.

A widely accepted definition of "Open Source" can be found here.

[The_Fury]

Funny that they announce it as open source now, especially after i had emailed Scott about 5 times wanting to buy the source to make a client for my game, which just so happens to have one of the most complete installs of MIP.

I look forward to the code release as i will now be able to move forward with closer integration of client and source and extensions that i wish to make to make a more cohesively designed and implemented game.

[Threshold]

What is Portal?

Who is Scott?

Where is this announcement?

[Mabus]

Originally Posted by Threshold What is Portal? Who is Scott? Where is this announcement?

Information on Scott Fairchild's Portal MUD Client can be found at GameAxle.

[Threshold]

Originally Posted by Mabus Information on Scott Fairchild's Portal MUD Client can be found at GameAxle.

Thanks.

[Ide]

Definitely an impressive feature set. I only wish a client like that was out there but with a more streamlined UI.

[The_Fury]

Originally Posted by Ide Definitely an impressive feature set. I only wish a client like that was out there but with a more streamlined UI.

Well it was written in Delphi 4 and nice widget sets did not exist on the ark. Once i have the source in my hands, bringing the UI into the 21st century will be my first undertaking.

Originally Posted by The_Fury Well it was written in Delphi 4 and nice widget sets did not exist on the ark. Once i have the source in my hands, bringing the UI into the 21st century will be my first undertaking.

The UI seems good to me, that's one of the reasons I flock to Portal. But that's just me.

Any progress, Fury?

[The_Fury]

Originally Posted by Kereth Anyone wishing to try Portal for free, before the source code is released, can get a better idea of what's being discussed here by trying Portal with RetroMUD - It's not just a game anymore . They have a deal going with Portal that will allow you to use the program free of charge for playing RetroMUD (and only RetroMUD). It's not an ideal setup for testing how Portal will function with your home MUD, of course, but if you're wanting a peek and not wanting to get the paid version, that's certainly a way to go about it. -Kereth

Doesn't this post belong in the promotions section. Portal can be downloaded for free by anyone and used for free by anyone without restriction, just go to gameaxel and download it and it can be used to connect to ANY mud. The only difference between the registered and non registered versions is the use of the Second Connection feature which is not the best selling point of this client anyways.


Violoett (sorry spelling) I have the source but i have not had time to look at it much, there is a lot missing because of the libraries used that cannot be distributed, so this might take a lot of work to modernise if i cannot get hold of those missing parts.

I will keep you informed however if and when i make some progress with it, which will not be till after exams next month.

[Newworlds]

Originally Posted by Kereth My apologies to anyone who thinks I may have posted in the wrong forum. My intention is just to point out a way to try the registered version, regardless of the difference in specs it may have from the unregistered version (something I haven't really taken time to toy with myself). I failed to check the time stamps on this thread, so I assumed the source code release was still forthcoming, and people who were asking questions might be more interested in a practical test drive in the meantime. I'd also be interested in seeing any tweaked versions of the program, once people have time to rework it. Good luck on your exams in the meantime. -Kereth

Oh come now Kereth, your point was to point people to your game. If someone just wanted to try the client, don't you think they are smart enough to try it on any MUD in this 1000's of MUD forum? Why not just remove your post instead of a follow up? *LOL*

[The_Fury]

Originally Posted by Newworlds Oh come now Kereth, your point was to point people to your game. If someone just wanted to try the client, don't you think they are smart enough to try it on any MUD in this 1000's of MUD forum? Why not just remove your post instead of a follow up? *LOL*

Testing the client on a game that has implemented MIP might be a good way for others to see the features of the client and its protocol in action, if Kereth mentioned that his game has impemented X features of MIP then that might have lead others to beleive that it was not blatent game advertising and more of an interest in the clients promotion. I know of few games that have very complete implementations of MIP. The only one i am aware of that implements all features completely is my own. It is not open to players and hardly complete, but you will see every MIP feature in action, tell, chat and room monitors, sounds, images, status guages all implemented and working.

Originally Posted by The_Fury Doesn't this post belong in the promotions section. Portal can be downloaded for free by anyone and used for free by anyone without restriction, just go to gameaxel and download it and it can be used to connect to ANY mud. The only difference between the registered and non registered versions is the use of the Second Connection feature which is not the best selling point of this client anyways. Violoett (sorry spelling) I have the source but i have not had time to look at it much, there is a lot missing because of the libraries used that cannot be distributed, so this might take a lot of work to modernise if i cannot get hold of those missing parts. I will keep you informed however if and when i make some progress with it, which will not be till after exams next month.

Doesn't it expire though? Aren't there some features accessible to registered users only?

Good luck on your exams, btw.

[The_Fury]

Originally Posted by Violette Doesn't it expire though? Aren't there some features accessible to registered users only? Good luck on your exams, btw.

No, the only feature that is different is that secondary connection is disabled in the demo version. The way that portal implements its second connection is clunky to say the least and is not a feature worth worrying about. If you need to have 2 games open at one time its much easier to just open another copy of portal rather than using the 2nd connection feature. (BTW i am a registered user and have never used 2nd connection cause it sucks)

By default portal will not let you open a second copy of itself, there is a way around this outlined in the help pages, you need to make an empty file called allowmultiple.co and put it into the portal folder. Then your able to run as many copies of portal as you require.

[Xyzzyn]

From Welcome to www.GameAxle.com :

What is the license? Are there be any strings attached? No license, and no strings. Pandora's box is open and I have no intention of preventing anyone from doing anything they want with it.

Sadly, things like copying, modifying, compiling, giving away and selling the code require an explicit permission. Pretty much the only thing you can do with somebody else’s source code without a license (like any of the ones listed under Licenses - Free Software Foundation) is look at it. That is, unless you wish to rely on the author’s promise not to sue you... which is not at all safe to do.

So unless the author fixes that, I don’t see much development happening for the code.

[The_Fury]

Originally Posted by Xyzzyn From Welcome to www.GameAxle.com : Sadly, things like copying, modifying, compiling, giving away and selling the code require an explicit permission. Pretty much the only thing you can do with somebody else’s source code without a license (like any of the ones listed under Licenses - Free Software Foundation) is look at it. That is, unless you wish to rely on the author’s promise not to sue you... which is not at all safe to do. So unless the author fixes that, I don’t see much development happening for the code.

Fortunately your mistaken. There does not have to be a license, the author has the right to do whatever he wants with his work. In this case he says you can do whatever you like with it without restriction and without exemption.