[valan]

Originally Posted by Anjanas 5 - WoT (The new kids on the block with 54 players that gained 150 votes over night to gain this postion. votes (406)

Originally Posted by http://www.topmudsites.com/forums/mudinfo-wotmud.html Date Added 9th August, 2001 Year Created 1993

Not so new, eh?

[MudMann]

Originally Posted by Delerak You two bickering isn't going to add anything to the thread. Just PM each other if you want to do that.

*Chuckle* coming from you that is quite amusing. but your point is quite correct, and this thread is exhausted, welcome BACK to the TMS WoT, you non-cheating crew!

I shall make full use (first time ever on ANY forum) of the wonderful ignore facility so I dont take the bait of the irritating yapping mutt anymore....

.....of course not without that last tempting pull of the pigtail before I cover my ears, stick out my tongue and run of going "nah nah nah cant hear YOU!!!" :-D

[Molly]

Originally Posted by Anjanas Yes, great advertising. It's gotten you all the way to 97th place on TMC with a whopping 3 votes. Give us a break, your cheating is so obvious it shouts from the penthouse windows.

Anjanas, you are a disgrace to yourself, and the bad thing is that you don't even realise it.
Since you made this low watermark post, WoTMud has successfully proved their innocense and kept their position on TMS.

And you still call them cheaters in later posts.

The only so called 'proof' that you offer is that they have a low position on another Mud voting site, TMC.
The only thing that proves is that they don't ask their players to vote on TMC.

Using the same flawed logic, you could also prove that Achaea, who currently holds the #2 position on TMS, are cheaters. They currently are listed as #911 on TMC, with a total of 0 votes.
That only proves that Achaea doesn't send their players to vote on TMC either.
Or are you going to call them cheaters next?

You should apologise to WoTMud, or crawl back into the hole you came from.

[Anjanas]

Originally Posted by Molly Anjanas, you are a disgrace to yourself, and the bad thing is that you don't even realise it. Since you made this low watermark post, WoTMud has successfully proved their innocense and kept their position on TMS. And you still call them cheaters in later posts. The only so called 'proof' that you offer is that they have a low position on another Mud voting site, TMC. The only thing that proves is that they don't ask their players to vote on TMC. Using the same flawed logic, you could also prove that Achaea, who currently holds the #2 position on TMS, are cheaters. They currently are listed as #911 on TMC, with a total of 0 votes. That only proves that Achaea doesn't send their players to vote on TMC either. Or are you going to call them cheaters next? You should apologise to WoTMud, or crawl back into the hole you came from.

No I will not apologize. The intent of my post worked. The people cheating quickly changed their tactics. Look at my original post. I said that WoT voted 150 times in one night. Has that happened again since my post? No, not even close. And yes, I've watched them. It worked. They didn't stop the cheating but at least slowed it down.

As for Achaea...draw your own conclusion.

Someone suggested a fix to this voting system by going to a TMC style voting system. I concur. Many in the top twenty here don't even make a dent on TMC. You have to ask yourself why and you will find the answer in my original post.

Molly, Mudmann, and Valan your responses to my valid accusations are rude and defensive and exactly what one expects from guilty parties. You may continue to defend the guilty, but it will not make them any less guilty.

[valan]

I was not defensive in either of my two posts, the reason being is because I didn't want to appear biased since I play WoTMUD, and have played it for almost 10 years now. I did, however, point out a couple minor things which really have little to no relevance here. If I came across as rude, I apologize, as that was never my intention.

If you're really interested in why our numbers have dropped some, it's probably because over at WoTMUD there's been no talk about voting in the past week, and not much talk for the week before that. Though that really doesn't concern me much. We know our MUD is great, and we don't need high rankings on TMS to prove it. It's just an added benefit when it does happen.

It is obvious, however, that nothing that anyone says or does here will change your opinion of who is cheating and who isn't, especially when you're the only person who thinks we're cheating and there's people who don't even care for WoTMUD who are still defending it. But I really don't care what you think about it, you're not going to cause me to lose any sleep tonight. Perhaps WoTMUD's PK will, when I get caught up in it and stay up too late, but that's beside the point

[MudMann]

Dont feed the trolls Valan.. you will never get rid of them that way.

It baffles me how I am accused of being a guilty party when I dont even play / admin any of the games concerned. Most bizarre. I am just one of the people with a modicum of common sense that can see things laid out on this issue and draw likely conclusions, and also accept results of investigations.

We should be thankful for our wonderful troll... helps us realise that not matter how pathetic we can be, there is always someone far far worse.

Now shhhhh.. its late in the UK and time for bed!

[Nikkotek]

Well... On WoTMUD we have plenty of trolls. Except not Anjanas type trolls... Our trolls can smell people in their zones, see in the dark, run further than a horse and have a bonus to get 2 extra strength points other races can't get. So our trolls are pretty badass and everyone's welcome to play them. Just know I'll be killing you if you do play one!

Ok... Maybe we do have a few Anjanas' on our forums... But who doesn't? :P