Ingham, you REALLY need to get help, see a shrink or something. I mean if this, which you directed at me, is typical of how you were at RoD, and you don't think you should be banned.... get real pal.

Pssst website owner, lose this guy. He's a punk with "issues", his incessant postings devalue this board to me.

Shrinks scare the poop out of me after I found out Dulan is a psych. major. (or at least that's what he says) I'm too afraid to go to a shrink now, because I'm scared to death my shrink will be a random guy furiously typing on his laptop yelling random stuff like "DIE, SPAMMING INFIDELS!!!" and "*** YOU SETH!!!"

Besides, how can you relate back to RoD if you never even did know me on RoD, punk? And lastly, allow me to remind you that your reason for removal would also very much apply to your and your little sidekick, Dulan.

My little sidekick? Who, Seth? KaVir? -scratches head-

Dunno if I read that post right, but whatever.

Now, let me put this in simple terms. I do not know if you were banned on RoD for good reasons, for bad reasons, or for none at all. From past experiences, banning would only be done _for a reason_, or else heads would roll. Your story even seems to give some of the reasons, but you try to masterfully gloss them over whenever someone brings them up.

You want us to diss on the other side without hearing the other sides story - just yours. If we don't diss on them, and refuse to assume that your story is the whole truth, with no bias from your part, you start attacking us.

Grow up. Learn there are other views then your own.

-D

Read my posts. Then restate this. Note my comments carefully. You evidently were not reading them, or seem to try to claim that you read them, but didn't understand the content. If someone was banned from RoD without a reason, imms WOULD be fired, I'm very sure of that.

I see your view. What the hell else do you think you are expressing, Ingham? And I attack your view simply because you seem unable to comprehend that you are "Backstabbing" and "talking behind someone's back" without them here being able to defend themselves. You criticize people for doing something, then do it yourself. I'd say that makes you a hypocrite, my friend, and not I.

-D

Don't evade my question and answer me. If you claim you can pass judgement over something you haven't heard both sides from, then why the hell are you trying to flame me the whole time? The other crock is irrelevant, just answer that question.

As for me being a hypocrite: How? I am not "backstabbing" someone, nor "talking about someone behind their back". I have given my side of this story.

Heck, what would you consider an illegal siteban anyways? What if I threatened to punch someone in the face IRL? Would that be a good reason to siteban me, despite the fact I said that 9 months prior to my siteban and that I long since made up with that person? Because THAT was the true reason of my siteban, given to me in an email by Kevin London, one of the higher level imms. Note tho, that I don't accuse him of anything, because I don't know the guy well enough to pass any judgement.

Who said I was passing judgement? I'm saying you are/were a spammer that has yet to apologize for it that I have seen, and see my next point.

Yes, you are. You are insulting them, and basically set this entire thread up as a bash on them. They are not here to defend themselves. You are talking behind their back. You criticize other people. Then you accuse me of being a hypocrite. I would not have brought this up if you had not accused me of it when yourself are far from innocent.

Nothing is an illegal siteban. If you pay for a MUD out of your own pocket, or put in hours and hours of work - for free, without compensation - I see no reason why someone should be able to insult or criticize you as you did on your own MUD. No one. You are a guest to their MUD, Ingham. It is their choice of how to punish you, when to punish you, and how to punish you. Hell, if they punish you. Anything they choose to give you is their right. They pay for it. They put their work in. You play on their hard work, and have fun with their hard work.

-D

Allow me to refer back to you passing judgement:

And I am not setting up this thread to bash them. Take a look at who started this thread, Einstein. Look. See. Weep. And finally, get lost along the way, thank you. And I think the referral I just posted is a nice way to point out you are quite the hypocrite indeed, claiming that passing judgement before hearing both sides isn't a good thing yet still doing so yourself.

As for the siteban bit, I though YOU were so sure about RoD never sitebanning anyone for a wrong reason? I mean, YOU said heads would roll if that would happen, but now you suddenly say this... I mean, really, you ought to stop contradicting yourself if you want ANY chance in ANY argument, because right now it's getting pathetic, with you ever repeating the same warped crock over and over...

I grow tired of this. Literally... Need sleeeep before my posts start to lose coherency like Dulan's. So Dulan, this gives you a few hours to think up of some original arguement and to write a decent post. Good luck, you'll need it because you are boring me.

Ingham,

#1: Heads would roll if it was a siteban without reason
#2: If you own a MUD, there can be no wrong reason to ban. It is your MUD. The only thing that can be considered 'wrong' is by your superiors or your own sense of ethics. If Moonbeam and co banned you for a wrong reason or no reason, heads would have rolled. But, evidently, Moonbeam et all's superiors thought it was a good reason to ban.

Personally, if this were my MUD, and you pulled this crap, I'd harass Syn for your IP, and go after your ISP account or some other bullcrap.

-D

Good to know I'll keep that in mind...so let me ask...does it make you feel good to tear other people down?

Are you threatening me or are you pulling a funny?

If you feel like reporting an IP, report this one: 127.0.0.1

Btw, if you want to contact my ISP, feel free to do so:

No interest, Ingham. But, next time you say that, say 127.83.12.10 or some such. It may go over better. Basically, any ip in the 127 range is reserved for your own comp. I have tricked some dumbasses into believing it and winnuking themselves before. Quite amusing. But that was probably before your day.

Now, as I said: What is a 'right' and 'wrong' ban is the call of the imm staff. Or even a 'no reason' ban. You have no right to criticize someone who gave you free access to their own hard work. And especially not behind their back, as you complained about them doing to you.

-D