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Lanthum · 09-15-2003, 03:07 AM

Wow, you just keep putting that big ole foot of yours in your mouth don't you Delerak. There are more than a few people on this board who realize you need to change the debate just so you aren't wrong.

You don't want to debate each countries bloodshed when they were each respectively new countries because it doesn't make sense to you - more likely it's because you would see just how bloody MOST other countries were when they were young - either within their own borders or outside. You don't want to debate the World Wars - why, who knows but most likely again because it blows your whole theory away that the US has historically spilled more blood. You say Germany is older than the US because you don't have much history of North America before the European patriots came over and destroyed it - and yet you don't want to remember all the war the germanic tribes waged.

Well, for those of us out here that aren't buying into your "America has historically spilled more blood in the last 300 years" propaganda, can you decide just exactly what it is you ARE trying to debate! It's getting very hard to follow your weak###, thin debate!

OHHHH! And I just Loooove this:
Now I'm no history major ... that's your cup of tea, but isn't the current accepted theory for Native Americans that they migrated over the Bering Land Bridge some 25-30,000 years ago? And, after migrating south began to establish tribes in what is now called The United States area around 20,000 years ago? Now just how old are those supposedly stable germanic tribes? So if you are going to consider those Germanic tribes, it would seem to me you would have to consider the Native American tribes as well.

Oh, and please don't be so stupid as to say that Native Americans don't know much about their past just because you don't know it. I know plenty about my ancestors. We just tend to be closed off and not too friendly with outside prying people. But it is amazing what you can find in written records in some tribal councils and colleges.

One last thing, you keep insinuating that most Americans and only Americans believe their TV's too much! Man, you are so out of touch. Every country, from Japan with far more Ads per person than the US, to Iraq and Saddam's propaganda on TV, to Hitler and his burning Books and his Hitler Youth Clubs ... every country and every people has it's own propaganda! It's money man! It makes the world go round. It's not just the US ... your stupid to think so! I'll quote another good Tool song:

"All you read and
Wear or see and
Hear on TV
Is a product
Begging for your
Fat### dirty
Dollar"

Here, there, anywhere. It's all media hype, businesses vying for your dollar, people trying to sell something, governments trying to bolster their ratings. It's not only in the US.

09-15-2003, 03:07 AM	#45
Lanthum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Suburbs of Chicago Posts: 138	Wow, you just keep putting that big ole foot of yours in your mouth don't you Delerak. There are more than a few people on this board who realize you need to change the debate just so you aren't wrong. You don't want to debate each countries bloodshed when they were each respectively new countries because it doesn't make sense to you - more likely it's because you would see just how bloody MOST other countries were when they were young - either within their own borders or outside. You don't want to debate the World Wars - why, who knows but most likely again because it blows your whole theory away that the US has historically spilled more blood. You say Germany is older than the US because you don't have much history of North America before the European *patriots* came over and destroyed it - and yet you don't want to remember all the war the germanic tribes waged. Well, for those of us out here that aren't buying into your "*America has historically spilled more blood in the last 300 years" propaganda, can you decide just exactly what it is you ARE* trying to debate! It's getting very hard to follow your weak###, thin debate! OHHHH! And I just Loooove this: Now I'm no history major ... that's your cup of tea, but isn't the current accepted theory for Native Americans that they migrated over the Bering Land Bridge some 25-30,000 years ago? And, after migrating south began to establish tribes in what is now called The United States area around 20,000 years ago? Now just how old are those supposedly stable germanic tribes? So if you are going to consider those Germanic tribes, it would seem to me you would have to consider the Native American tribes as well. Oh, and please don't be so stupid as to say that Native Americans don't know much about their past just because you don't know it. I know plenty about my ancestors. We just tend to be closed off and not too friendly with outside prying people. But it is amazing what you can find in written records in some tribal councils and colleges. One last thing, you keep insinuating that most Americans and only Americans believe their TV's too much! Man, you are so out of touch. Every country, from Japan with far more Ads per person than the US, to Iraq and Saddam's propaganda on TV, to Hitler and his burning Books and his Hitler Youth Clubs ... every country and every people has it's own propaganda! It's money man! It makes the world go round. It's not just the US ... your stupid to think so! I'll quote another good Tool song: "All you read and Wear or see and Hear on TV Is a product Begging for your Fat### dirty Dollar" Here, there, anywhere. It's all media hype, businesses vying for your dollar, people trying to sell something, governments trying to bolster their ratings. It's not only in the US.