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Solus · 02-07-2006, 09:54 PM

As I said before, the button existed since 2003. I can even find posts on Materia Magica's forums that prove this is so. People mention the button. Players started posting and chanting 'vote vote vote' in early 2003. And as I said before, web archives show the button during 2003.

Also, during the April 2004 email that you mentioned, Vassago shows Adam where this button is. It is also during this same time that Materia Magica got banned for the splurt voting.

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As for the questions people were asked, only 6 of those people are worth counting.
No offense to Adam, but he did a poor job asking people about the URL for voting. Most people won't understand what someone means when someone randomally asks "Whats the URL for voting" without some context. (Voting for what? Bush? Some contest being held by the players? (Such as "Home Audits--Best Homes of Alyria Conest" or the contest Kaden tried to start? (Both of which were brought up in April 2004.)))
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I say 6 because 3 of the people he asked the proper question don't count.
Adam doesn't have Vai's response logged, so he doesn't count. Kyrstyan knew about it, so I'm not counting her, and Gantetshu was a brand new character still in Lasler, so he shouldn't be expected to know the URL.
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As Vassago stated, people may use a bookmark, a link, the reminder (which only people over level 45 see a few minutes after they log on.), or they may not want to bother looking up the URL so the newbie can vote.

Vassago explained splurt voting is normal. Not step voting.
Splurt voting is normal. I tracked the top ten games and saw splurts.

(Over the course of an hour, Aardwolf recieved 7 votes, then 14, then 5...
Achaea recieved 12, 12, 2...
The Carrion fields recieved 6, 12, 2...
Lusternia recieved 9, 1, 2...)

Small splurts like this should be expected. As such, if someone complains about voting splurts, so what? It doesn't sound like something you should worry about.
Of course, the splurts Materia Magica is accused of were on a MUCH grander scale according to the graph.

Alas, Adam's e-mail never told Vassago how huge the splurts were; as such, Vassago may not have been concerned that there were splurts. (And don't forget, Vassago doesn't recieve the graph until after Lothos's cheating gets Materia Magica banned.)

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No proof that Vassago was behind the cheating exists. All we have are the words of a disgruntled player.

02-07-2006, 09:54 PM	#91
Solus New Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 12	As I said before, the button existed since 2003. I can even find posts on Materia Magica's forums that prove this is so. People mention the button. Players started posting and chanting 'vote vote vote' in early 2003. And as I said before, web archives show the button during 2003. Also, during the April 2004 email that you mentioned, Vassago shows Adam where this button is. It is also during this same time that Materia Magica got banned for the splurt voting. -- As for the questions people were asked, only 6 of those people are worth counting. No offense to Adam, but he did a poor job asking people about the URL for voting. Most people won't understand what someone means when someone randomally asks "Whats the URL for voting" without some context. (Voting for what? Bush? Some contest being held by the players? (Such as "Home Audits--Best Homes of Alyria Conest" or the contest Kaden tried to start? (Both of which were brought up in April 2004.))) ---- I say 6 because 3 of the people he asked the proper question don't count. Adam doesn't have Vai's response logged, so he doesn't count. Kyrstyan knew about it, so I'm not counting her, and Gantetshu was a brand new character still in Lasler, so he shouldn't be expected to know the URL. ---- As Vassago stated, people may use a bookmark, a link, the reminder (which only people over level 45 see a few minutes after they log on.), or they may not want to bother looking up the URL so the newbie can vote. Vassago explained splurt voting is normal. Not step voting. Splurt voting is normal. I tracked the top ten games and saw splurts. (Over the course of an hour, Aardwolf recieved 7 votes, then 14, then 5... Achaea recieved 12, 12, 2... The Carrion fields recieved 6, 12, 2... Lusternia recieved 9, 1, 2...) Small splurts like this should be expected. As such, if someone complains about voting splurts, so what? It doesn't sound like something you should worry about. Of course, the splurts Materia Magica is accused of were on a MUCH grander scale according to the graph. Alas, Adam's e-mail never told Vassago how huge the splurts were; as such, Vassago may not have been concerned that there were splurts. (And don't forget, Vassago doesn't recieve the graph until after Lothos's cheating gets Materia Magica banned.) -- No proof that Vassago was behind the cheating exists. All we have are the words of a disgruntled player.