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Here's a summary of the thread:
Brody: It's an underdog of the day!
Alajha: That's quite offensive.
Brody: Who cares?
Ogma: We don't cheat in the voting.
Brody: It's an underdog of the day!
Alajha: My friend runs that!
Alajha: You can't seem to see how tasteless you are.
Brody: It's my time, and it's not tasteless. You've got issues.
Alajha: You've not even played those muds.
OnyxFlame: I like the idea.
Burke: You've just got an axe to grind, Alajha.
Brody: Sorry if you don't like it, but I'm going not going to stop.
Quicksilver: Any advertising is good advertising!
the_logos: (makes comment about anti-Achaea remarks)
Klered: Keep up the good work!
CSmith_Fan: An "underdog" means it's actually the "best"!
KaVir: Actually "underdog" means a loser, or a victim of injustice.
Brody: Well I'm using the definition "One that is at a disadvantage".
Cayn: I think it's a great idea!
Brody: It's an underdog of the day!
smadronia: I like the idea!
KaVir: You can post what you like, but you will offend people.
Burke: You're just nitpicking.
Kitsune: I think it's a good idea.
John: Keep up the good work!
Jehanelin: Brody should think about expanding the idea.
Terloch: Synozeer is considering having official TMS reviews.
Bastien: Underdog of the day is a good idea!
Molly O'Hara: It's a great idea, but why not change the name?
KaVir: Reviews are great, but UotD give no info. It's more like a charity.
John: The muds Brody selects are not "poor" muds.
KaVir: Right. So why portray them as inferior?
John: Brody is just trying to draw attention to these muds.
Vesper: Good work, Brody.
KaVir: Right John, but there's no need to infer they are "losers".
John: Fair enough.
Terloch: Brody didn't intend to infer they were losers, so who cares?
KaVir: He should care, if he's really trying to help people.
Terloch: We should all stop posting now.
Burke: (no idea, as he edited it out).
Dulan: Brody is just randomly advertising muds. No review, no reason.
John: It would take too long to write reviews.
Brody: I'm not changing the name. Write your own blurbs.
Dulan: Ah, so it's to feed your ego.
Brody: I don't care what you believe.
Dulan: I think you have an ulterior motive.
Brody: (Sarcastic suggestions). Anybody else care to speculate?
Dulan: (Sarcastic response).
Brody: (Sarcastic response).
Ytrewtsu: He's trying to help the community!
Dulan: (Sarcastic response).
Brody: Next underdog of the day will be posted after midnight.
Dulan: You never answered the question about your motives.
Noximist: I'm glad to see these muds get some recognition.
Alajha: I apologise. The underdog mud owner said she doesn't mind.
KaVir: Brody, there are better ways to achieve what you're aiming for.
Dulan: Agreed. Why not write a script?
Brody: (Sarcastic response). Next underdog coming up!
Dulan: You're ignoring the points that were raised.
CSmith_Fan: Who cares? Start your own threads.
Tocamat: Who cares?
Bastien: Get over it.
Dulan: (Comments about a vocal minority).
Keahi: Where's the next underdog?
enix: Brody is just trying to be nice.
Brody: It's an underdog of the day!
Falconer: Brody's motives don't matter.
John: (Joking comments)
KaVir: Brody, you've still not answered the points I've raised.
Burke: Maybe he got wise and started ignoring you.
Brianna: Maybe Brody should change the name?
Burr: Scripting is possible. Full reviews would also be nice.
Dulan: Burke's name is an offensive slang word.
KaVir: Brody cannot make these problems go away by ignoring them.
OnyxFlame: Brody's endorsement is much better than random crap.
Bastien: (Sarcastic comment about Burke's name)
Azhon: This discussion is amusing.
Samson: Underdog is good. I wish the unranked muds got a mention.
KaVir: (to OnyxFlame) How can it be better? He's never tried the muds!
KaVir: (to Samson) Okay, here's the same style post about your mud.
Brody: That was a vicious mocking. Start a new thread.
Dulan: (Comments about Burke).
Alajha: Brody is just after attention - to become a "big player".
the_logos: (Comments about Burke). Keep it up Brody.
Kitsune: Who cares if Brody wants to post his underdog adverts?
enix: He's just doing the best he can.
Almondine War: I support any actions meant in goodwill.
Dulan: Just as MUDs are public, so are people and their comments.
CSmith_Fan: (Complains that the thread won't die).
Loremaster: I think what Brody has done is a nice thing to do.
KaVir: (to Brody) I posted exactly the same style post as you.
Samson: The difference is that Brody's posts weren't offensive.
Dulan: Why does he keep dodging questions?
KaVir: They were as offensive to me as mine was to you.
Orion Elder: Brody has made it clear that he's trying to help!
Samson: But Brody didn't set out to offend!
Dulan: Brody dodges questions, ignores suggestions.
kris: (Loser Thread of the day post).
CSmith_Fan: That homosexual comment was out of line, kris.
kris: Yeah, that was the point. I wasn't being serious.
the_logos: It was still offensive.
Dulan: He was being sarcastic.
Azhon: 3 pages of crud in 1 day. Great work!
KaVir: (to Samson) But he did offend me.
Orion Elder: But you were being offensive.
Samson: Brody has decided not to address his motives.
Here's a shorter version, without all the "me too" and unrelated posts (I've also removed the Dulan/Brody insult exchanges):
Brody: It's an underdog of the day!
Alajha: That's quite offensive.
Brody: Who cares?
Brody: It's an underdog of the day!
Alajha: My friend runs that!
Alajha: You can't seem to see how tasteless you are.
Brody: It's my time, and it's not tasteless. You've got issues.
Alajha: You've not even played those muds.
Brody: Sorry if you don't like it, but I'm going not going to stop.
KaVir: Actually "underdog" means a loser, or a victim of injustice.
Brody: Well I'm using the definition "One that is at a disadvantage".
Brody: It's an underdog of the day!
KaVir: You can post what you like, but you will offend people.
KaVir: Reviews are great, but UotD give no info. It's more like a charity.
John: The muds Brody selects are not "poor" muds.
KaVir: Right. So why portray them as inferior?
Terloch: Brody didn't intend to infer they were losers, so who cares?
KaVir: He should care, if he's really trying to help people.
Brody: I'm not changing the name. Write your own blurbs.
Brody: Next underdog of the day will be posted after midnight.
KaVir: Brody, there are better ways to achieve what you're aiming for.
Dulan: Agreed. Why not write a script?
Brody: (Sarcastic response). Next underdog coming up!
Dulan: You're ignoring the points that were raised.
Brody: It's an underdog of the day!
KaVir: Brody, you've still not answered the points I've raised.
Burke: Maybe he got wise and started ignoring you.
KaVir: Brody cannot make these problems go away by ignoring them.
OnyxFlame: Brody's endorsement is much better than random crap.
Samson: Underdog is good. I wish the unranked muds got a mention.
KaVir: (to OnyxFlame) How can it be better? He's never tried the muds!
KaVir: (to Samson) Okay, here's the same style post about your mud.
Brody: That was a vicious mocking. Start a new thread.
KaVir: (to Brody) I posted exactly the same style post as you.
Samson: The difference is that Brody's posts weren't offensive.
Dulan: Why does he keep dodging questions?
KaVir: They were as offensive to me as mine was to you.
Orion Elder: Brody has made it clear that he's trying to help!
Samson: But Brody didn't set out to offend!
Dulan: Brody dodges questions, ignores suggestions.
KaVir: (to Samson) But he did offend me.
Orion Elder: But you were being offensive.
Samson: Brody has decided not to address his motives.
Conclusion:
Brody, for reasons of his own, decided to start randomly advertising muds which weren't on the front page. As I said to him at the time, the concept isn't a bad one, but as quickly became apparently, the name is rather derogatory and the adverts don't actually offer any incentive to try the mud (there's no real info about the muds - indeed, Brody hasn't even tried connecting to them).
In many aspects of the mud community, the bouncing back and forth of ideas is essential in order to create a worthwhile venture. In mud development, it is the only way to create a decent game. And it is no different here. If you go to any of the mud related websites you'll see contributor sections, places to send suggestions, and so on.
In this case, however, Brody simply refused to listen, consider, or respond to the points that were raised. Instead of taking the opportunity to refine his concept with the aid of the other members of the community, he instead decided to obliviously continue on his set course.
I've repeatedly tried to steer the conversation back towards improving the idea, but just got bombarded with responses like "Who cares?" and "You've got issues". I doubt that most of the posters have even read the thread before jumping onto the bandwagon, which is really rather sad.
If you want to flame me, fine. But at least have the decency of considering my viewpoint. Samson, I apologise for insulting you, but I needed to drive home the point that just because you don't find something offensive doesn't mean it isn't offensive to someone else. Both "underdog" and "loser" have a negative meaning, as well as an non-negative (and correct) one within the context of the TMS rankings. I had hoped you might be able to see past the post and understand what I was getting at.
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