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shadowfyr · 09-02-2007, 07:04 PM

Argh! Ok, I just want to comment on one issue in this thread. Someone brought up "merchandise" as a form of payment. My only question is, "Does this effect game play?" If the answer is, "No, buying our T-Shirt doesn't have any effect at all on the game world, other than to help us keep the servers going.", then its the ****same**** thing as donations, basically. You don't "have to" buy it to get anything in the game. If you want to get bloody picky about this kind of BS, then change the options to say something like, "Donations accepted (or merchandise perchases, where applicable)." And I agree with people's assesments of the situation. Some people don't want anyone to be able to look for a mud based on rational criteria, since that would lend itself to people skipping their muds, which means they can't hook them like a fish, then get them to buy ingame incentives. I haven't seen this much nonsense over a simple issue since the last time I read anything from the Disco Institute in support of ID in schools, or since Bill Clinton tried to insist that his entire guilt rested on which definition of "is" one used.

As for the issue of people buying things getting perks from buying something. If the mud is honest, then it doesn't matter. If they are not, then we **will hear about it**. I came up with the slogan for the T-Shirt sold from Ages of Despair, to help defray their costs. I got a free one from them for it. So far, no one, including me, has gotten anything at all for buying one, other than my initial *out of game* reward for winning the contest. That is an honest mud. Some other mud wants to give people freebies for it, someone is going to talk, someone will notice, and someone will post about it, leaving the mud in question with a serious problem, if they want to keep their "status" in any such list. If someone here is suggesting the changes for that reason, they are **going** to be the people looked at the hardest, dissected if it appears they did cheat, and the first to pay the price for intentionally cheating the system. I would think that would be a big fracking, "Duh!"

09-02-2007, 07:04 PM	#326
shadowfyr Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 310	Re: What does "Free" Mean? Argh! Ok, I just want to comment on one issue in this thread. Someone brought up "merchandise" as a form of payment. My only question is, "Does this effect game play?" If the answer is, "No, buying our T-Shirt doesn't have any effect at all on the game world, other than to help us keep the servers going.", then its the **same thing as donations, basically. You don't "have to" buy it to get anything in the game. If you want to get bloody picky about this kind of BS, then change the options to say something like, "Donations accepted (or merchandise perchases, where applicable)." And I agree with people's assesments of the situation. Some people don't want anyone to be able to look for a mud based on rational criteria, since that would lend itself to people skipping their muds, which means they can't hook them like a fish, then get them to buy ingame incentives. I haven't seen this much nonsense over a simple issue since the last time I read anything from the Disco Institute in support of ID in schools, or since Bill Clinton tried to insist that his entire guilt rested on which definition of "is" one used. As for the issue of people buying things getting perks from buying something. If the mud is honest, then it doesn't matter. If they are not, then we will hear about it*. I came up with the slogan for the T-Shirt sold from Ages of Despair, to help defray their costs. I got a free one from them for it. So far, no one, including me, has gotten anything at all for buying one, other than my initial out of game* reward for winning the contest. That is an honest mud. Some other mud wants to give people freebies for it, someone is going to talk, someone will notice, and someone will post about it, leaving the mud in question with a serious problem, if they want to keep their "status" in any such list. If someone here is suggesting the changes for that reason, they are going to be the people looked at the hardest, dissected if it appears they did cheat, and the first to pay the price for intentionally cheating the system. I would think that would be a big fracking, "Duh!"