[shadowfyr]

But!!! Churches provide a sevice. They read a book you can buy yourself and repeat the interpretations of what it says, which you already interpretted that it says yourself, over and over again, kind of like a giant mirror. Oh wait... What they hell do they *actually* do? lol

But seriously, there are a lot of cases where people recieve money where the expectation is ***not*** a direct and immediate result to the person handing over the money. Some things do have some general tangible benefit. Donating money to help cancer research, if you have cancer, may have a more direct result "to you" than someone that donates, but never gets it. I think this is just another attempt to reframe donations to an otherwise moneyless game as something its not. I don't think I am the only one getting a bit tired of it. Framing something so it **looks** worse than it is just makes the person doing it look like a fool, to anyone recognizing that they are trying to do the equivalent of putting a 24k gold frame, with glass, over a crayon drawing. Just because you have framed the argument to try to make it sound reasonable doesn't mean it suddenly becomes reasonable.

That said, I still think the 4 box system, with some allowed clarification, is better. It gives more precise information. When you start reducing that to 2, you are just helping the people that want to reframe the whole thing in the best light for them, but the worst for actually figuring out what you are looking for.