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Jazuela · 09-12-2007, 07:05 PM

NewWorlds you're trying to come up with ways to appease all different types of mud admins with their variety of payment types (or lack thereof). That's a big problem. Because the focus of -this- issue isn't on how mud admins can/should categorize their muds. It's about how PLAYERS can LOOK for muds. The moment you try to please mud admins, is the moment you forget this whole point is to create a search engine for players, who are looking for any of the following:

1) I want a game where real-world currency has no part of the game, whether via donation or required payment or payment optional.

2) I want a game where donations are allowed, but there is no benefit in-game if I make one.

3) I want a game where I can pay for things with real world currency if I want, but I don't have to, to enjoy everything that people who do pay, can enjoy, with a *reasonable* amount of time invested.

4) I am looking for a payment-required game.

5) I am looking for a game where certain things can be purchased with real-world money that will benefit me in-game, and that are not available to people who don't pay.

And yes I like the idea of this being a multiple option for players too; so we don't have to decide which -one- we want, if we're open to more than one.

The 4-option one most folks here seem to agree over, would probably be fine so long as the player can pick any combination rather than being limited to picking one. All games of all types will fall into one or another category, with most of them falling into one (money optional, no in-game benefit), since the bulk of games listed here are Diku-based or have other codebases with similarly limited licenses.

I have no personal stake in any decision made, because I am not a game admin. But as a player, those options would work for me just fine. I just want to know if people who pay money will get ANY kind of perk IN GAME, because that would be a game I will want to avoid. I'm not particular about whether or not they accept donations or refuse them, as long as I don't learn that someone can buy something from the official game website that will appear in the game, whether it's stats, or levels, or a token for a free alteration of his character's clothing, or an asterisk in front of his character's name/main description, or the ultimate deathsword of d00m and d3$trukshun.

09-12-2007, 07:05 PM	#411
Jazuela Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New England Posts: 849	Re: What does "Free" Mean? NewWorlds you're trying to come up with ways to appease all different types of mud admins with their variety of payment types (or lack thereof). That's a big problem. Because the focus of -this- issue isn't on how mud admins can/should categorize their muds. It's about how PLAYERS can LOOK for muds. The moment you try to please mud admins, is the moment you forget this whole point is to create a search engine for players, who are looking for any of the following: 1) I want a game where real-world currency has no part of the game, whether via donation or required payment or payment optional. 2) I want a game where donations are allowed, but there is no benefit in-game if I make one. 3) I want a game where I can pay for things with real world currency if I want, but I don't have to, to enjoy everything that people who do pay, can enjoy, with a reasonable amount of time invested. 4) I am looking for a payment-required game. 5) I am looking for a game where certain things can be purchased with real-world money that will benefit me in-game, and that are not available to people who don't pay. And yes I like the idea of this being a multiple option for players too; so we don't have to decide which -one- we want, if we're open to more than one. The 4-option one most folks here seem to agree over, would probably be fine so long as the player can pick any combination rather than being limited to picking one. All games of all types will fall into one or another category, with most of them falling into one (money optional, no in-game benefit), since the bulk of games listed here are Diku-based or have other codebases with similarly limited licenses. I have no personal stake in any decision made, because I am not a game admin. But as a player, those options would work for me just fine. I just want to know if people who pay money will get ANY kind of perk IN GAME, because that would be a game I will want to avoid. I'm not particular about whether or not they accept donations or refuse them, as long as I don't learn that someone can buy something from the official game website that will appear in the game, whether it's stats, or levels, or a token for a free alteration of his character's clothing, or an asterisk in front of his character's name/main description, or the ultimate deathsword of d00m and d3$trukshun.