MUD and RPG Webmasters

less than sacred · 08-10-2003, 07:53 PM

I'm redesigning the webpage for Dark Hope MUD and I'd like to get a few opinions about it if you have the time to take a look.
you can find the page at

Thanks

DSer · 08-10-2003, 09:23 PM

Ltriad · 08-10-2003, 10:14 PM

Your frame sizes should be corrected... certain ones are certainly too large for the amount of information/text/graphics in them and others are far too small to allow a person to navigate freely. IMHO, the lower left frame should just be on a seperate linked page altogether. My rule; keep frames to a min (i.e. max of 3).

My two cents,
Ltriad.

less than sacred · 08-10-2003, 11:19 PM

I appreciate the input. I would reset my frame sizes but I like seamless frames that aren't visible for the most part. If I adjust them I start getting slider bars that, to me, take away from the overall smoothness.

It's a rough draft and I still have a lot of work to do on it. But I think I outdid myself with the graphics I made.

Aeledius · 08-11-2003, 04:34 AM

In reply to a previous comment: You can adjust your frames and still keep a "seemless" look just make them NOSCROLL or SCROLLING = NO, can't remember off the top of my head which it is. Its been a while since I've used straight HTML. Secondly, in IE, it doesn't look seemless, you gotta turn off the frame borders, they look horrid.

Third, just a suggestion, but its a big difference between amateur and semi-professional pages: PRELOAD YOUR ROLLOVER IMAGES. That is, when I put my mouse over your nav links, I DON'T want to see it take 2 seconds the first time to change (waiting for the image download) and it be instantaneous the second and subsequent times (when the image is cached).

If you need any help with these, there are code snippets, examples, tutorials, etc all over the place on the net, but should you be lazy/non search friendly, feel free to contact me.

ICQ: 86034849
MSN:
AIM: Aeledius
Email:

P.S. That goes for anyone else too, I sincerely believe in giving back to the community that has helped me so much.

James Meyer
aka Aldyn creator and founder of Aeledius (currently down for redesign)

Kylotan · 08-11-2003, 09:09 AM

The logo frame is just way too big. Even at 1024x768, it squashes the main content frame so small as to make reading it painful. I would probably only have that logo on my front page anyway, settling for a smaller version above the menu on the left on all other pages. That would allow the entire right-hand side of the screen to scroll.

I would also prefer the style information to be in a separate style sheet but I suppose that's a religious issue. Not much need for all that 'style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204)' stuff everywhere, though.

less than sacred · 08-11-2003, 12:59 PM

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08-10-2003, 07:53 PM	#1
less than sacred New Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14	I'm redesigning the webpage for Dark Hope MUD and I'd like to get a few opinions about it if you have the time to take a look. you can find the page at Thanks

08-10-2003, 09:23 PM	#2
DSer Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 65

08-10-2003, 10:14 PM	#3
Ltriad New Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3	Your frame sizes should be corrected... certain ones are certainly too large for the amount of information/text/graphics in them and others are far too small to allow a person to navigate freely. IMHO, the lower left frame should just be on a seperate linked page altogether. My rule; keep frames to a min (i.e. max of 3). My two cents, Ltriad.

08-10-2003, 11:19 PM	#4
less than sacred New Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14	I appreciate the input. I would reset my frame sizes but I like seamless frames that aren't visible for the most part. If I adjust them I start getting slider bars that, to me, take away from the overall smoothness. It's a rough draft and I still have a lot of work to do on it. But I think I outdid myself with the graphics I made.

08-11-2003, 04:34 AM	#5
Aeledius New Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 13	In reply to a previous comment: You can adjust your frames and still keep a "seemless" look just make them NOSCROLL or SCROLLING = NO, can't remember off the top of my head which it is. Its been a while since I've used straight HTML. Secondly, in IE, it doesn't look seemless, you gotta turn off the frame borders, they look horrid. Third, just a suggestion, but its a big difference between amateur and semi-professional pages: PRELOAD YOUR ROLLOVER IMAGES. That is, when I put my mouse over your nav links, I DON'T want to see it take 2 seconds the first time to change (waiting for the image download) and it be instantaneous the second and subsequent times (when the image is cached). If you need any help with these, there are code snippets, examples, tutorials, etc all over the place on the net, but should you be lazy/non search friendly, feel free to contact me. ICQ: 86034849 MSN: AIM: Aeledius Email: P.S. That goes for anyone else too, I sincerely believe in giving back to the community that has helped me so much. James Meyer aka Aldyn creator and founder of Aeledius (currently down for redesign)

08-11-2003, 09:09 AM	#6
Kylotan Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Nottingham, UK Home MUD: Abattoir (Smaug) Home MUD: ex-Jellybean (Smaug) Home MUD: ex-Dark Chambers (Merc) Posts: 174	The logo frame is just way too big. Even at 1024x768, it squashes the main content frame so small as to make reading it painful. I would probably only have that logo on my front page anyway, settling for a smaller version above the menu on the left on all other pages. That would allow the entire right-hand side of the screen to scroll. I would also prefer the style information to be in a separate style sheet but I suppose that's a religious issue. Not much need for all that 'style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204)' stuff everywhere, though.

08-11-2003, 12:59 PM	#7
less than sacred New Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14

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