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Old 08-02-2020, 11:27 AM   #1
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Voting Captcha

For those who didn't already notice, the voting page now has Google Recaptcha. Some people flat out hate this and an overall drop in daily average votes was expected. I'm sure it's just a matter of time until someone is scripting around it, but for now they're not and the numbers represent actual votes.

Check out last month's results (http://www.topmudsites.com/lastmonth.html) and compare rough daily average to this month to date. Far be it from me to suggest that there might have been some automation taking place before the change, but some of those differences are quite striking.
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Old 08-02-2020, 12:15 PM   #2
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Re: Voting Captcha

I don't think it is that big of a deal.

Most of our players were curious when it popped up but it seems relatively simple. Another option would be to force people to log in to vote like TMC does. That would guaranty real track-able votes. That is much more of a pain though and votes would drop significantly I think.

More importantly is that you are still keeping TMS running. Good job! TMC is a complete failure and disappointment now that the Admin has given up on it. Keep up the good work!
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Old 08-02-2020, 03:08 PM   #3
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Re: Voting Captcha

I voted for a mud with zero votes an hour ago and it still shows zero votes for that particular mud. I didn't see ''pick images with traffic lights'' and such. I wonder why my vote didn't count.
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Old 08-02-2020, 04:48 PM   #4
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Re: Voting Captcha

PM me the MUD and I'll take a look.

Assuming you hadn't already voted for another MUD today, otherwise that would be why.
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Old 08-05-2020, 08:32 AM   #5
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Re: Voting Captcha

I don't see anybody has a grounds to hate this. You guys can just pay for the ads that help Lasher keep the site running instead of botting your way to free publicity anymore. The voting needs to be legit. Its better for the players.

+1000 for recaptcha thank you

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Old 08-08-2020, 11:33 AM   #6
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Re: Voting Captcha

I made an account just to say: Big thanks for the change!
This makes me feel a lot more secure in the idea that most of TopMudSite’s votes are actually people voting and not vote-bloat-bot stuff. We’ve had players in the past hesitant to vote because they felt like their votes didn’t count due to that hefty bloat, but since this change people seem to feel like their votes actually mean something.

So for what its worth, thanks for the change!
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Old 08-13-2020, 05:39 PM   #7
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Re: Voting Captcha

Funny thing is, not only do the votes look a good bit different than last month, they look a heck of a lot like they did 10 years ago. Don't know if that is good or bad for MUDs overall, but it's interesting.
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Old 08-15-2020, 12:10 PM   #8
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Funny thing is, not only do the votes look a good bit different than last month, they look a heck of a lot like they did 10 years ago. Don't know if that is good or bad for MUDs overall, but it's interesting.
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Old 08-15-2020, 08:00 PM   #9
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The change came up pretty quickly in conversation in our Discord, and most of our players reacted positively to the concept of fairer more accurate voting at the small cost of having to use a captcha. It was interesting to observe certain MUDs historically in the top 5 or so dropping down well out of the top 10 with the change.
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Old 09-02-2020, 02:51 PM   #10
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Re: Voting Captcha

It would appear one of the MUDs that was always high in the rankings then dropped after Captcha was added figured it out this month and adjusted their methods.

TMS and all similar voting sites function as a traffic exchange. MUDs send players here to vote for them which gives other MUDs some exposure to other players. The games sending the most people here are featured more highly and, in theory, bring the most eyeballs to other MUDs. When a game automates the vote to the point that nobody has to look at the site, that is cheating even if it still has to be initiated manually.

This is taken directly from the Gemstone IV forum:

https://imgur.com/a/sKczYHd
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:36 PM   #11
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Re: Voting Captcha

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It would appear one of the MUDs that was always high in the rankings then dropped after Captcha was added figured it out this month and adjusted their methods.

TMS and all similar voting sites function as a traffic exchange. MUDs send players here to vote for them which gives other MUDs some exposure to other players. The games sending the most people here are featured more highly and, in theory, bring the most eyeballs to other MUDs. When a game automates the vote to the point that nobody has to look at the site, that is cheating even if it still has to be initiated manually.

This is taken directly from the Gemstone IV forum:

https://imgur.com/a/sKczYHd
I am not surprised. Disappointed, but not surprised.
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