Top Mud Sites Forum Return to TopMudSites.com
Go Back   Top Mud Sites Forum > MUD Players and General Discussion > Tavern of the Blue Hand
Click here to Register

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-28-2002, 04:30 PM   #1
Shao_Long
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: belfast, UK
Posts: 505
Shao_Long is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Shao_Long Send a message via MSN to Shao_Long
Shao_Long is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2002, 10:45 PM   #2
TG_Nek
 
Posts: n/a
Angry

In the absence of Bruce Willis, I'll go with Clint.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2002, 11:22 PM   #3
Shao_Long
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: belfast, UK
Posts: 505
Shao_Long is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Shao_Long Send a message via MSN to Shao_Long
Shao_Long is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2002, 12:36 AM   #4
Quicksilver
New Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Toronto, ONT, Canada
Posts: 23
Quicksilver is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to Quicksilver
Angry

Quicksilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2002, 01:48 AM   #5
Shao_Long
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: belfast, UK
Posts: 505
Shao_Long is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Shao_Long Send a message via MSN to Shao_Long
Shao_Long is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2002, 02:07 AM   #6
Dulan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 354
Dulan is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to Dulan
Normally, I do not involve myself in threads such as these, however, Shao's latest post required my input.

Of all those listed, only Stallone, and to a lesser extent, Lee is mentionable.

Stallone is a shichidan (seventh dan) of Aikido, either a derivation or a "sister art" to the Art that I follow - aikijujutsu. Lee created his own Art. The rest are nothing more then special affects wonders. While Chan (Not Jacky Chen, twip, Jackie Chan) has some ability according to what I understand, it is at best a sandan - a third dan.

The rest are inconsequential - even Jet Li. Van Damne (Not Damn, again, twip) supposedly has some talent, but Stallone challenged him to a fight - and Van Damne ran away.

And, they are movie stars. To quote my sensei, "My training is not for making money. It is to hone the soul - and the body". Not only do most follow hideously bastardized Americanized Arts (For the record, I an American. But most arts have been utterly....destroyed in America. I'll rant about this later.), but their form is a joke, excluding Stallone and Lee. If my, or any student of the Arts, form was as bad as any of the non-excluded actors, my Sensei (a kudan, mind you) would likely expel me/student from the Art.

There is no special affects. Note the form, the stance. Even a sandan has better form then any actor (excluding Lee and Stallone, again) mentioned on the thread or the poll.

I am shocked that you overlooked Chow Yun Fat. From his work in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, I am somewhat impressed. If that was him performing the kata, and not a stunt-double. If it was, I have high hopes for his future career.

/End Rant.

-D
Dulan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2002, 03:02 AM   #7
Kastagaar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Hampshire, UK
Posts: 117
Kastagaar is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to Kastagaar
Post

In spite of all that's been said, for sheer "wow that impressed me on-screen", I would vote Jet Li, so my vote's a null one.

But if we were voting for real people, I'd say Akuma. What do you mean, "he's not real"?

Kas.
Kastagaar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2002, 05:02 AM   #8
KaVir
Legend
 
KaVir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Name: Richard
Home MUD: God Wars II
Posts: 2,052
KaVir will become famous soon enoughKaVir will become famous soon enough
I'd vote for Jet Li too - and I hardly consider him "inconsequential". He started training at the Beijing Wushu Academy aged 9, won his first championship at the age of 11, and by the age of 18 had won the gold medal for All-Round National Champion 5 years running. He also went on to represent his country in a world tour that included a performance on the White House lawn for the American president, Richard Nixon.

He's been in around 35 movies and was considered one of the greatest starts in Hong Kong in the 80's and 90's - but he was a national hero long before then. His movies might have a lot of special affects in them, but then that's the way Hong Kong movies tend to be. He didn't use special effects to win 5 gold medals, though.
KaVir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2002, 05:54 AM   #9
Alastair
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 120
Alastair is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to Alastair
Apart from KaVir's correction on Jet Li, there's also another one missing here who's not your average SFX actor: Steven Seagal.

Steven was the first foreigner ever to own and operate an Aikido dojo in Japan. Known as "Master Take Shigemichi", he was the chief instructor at the Aikido Tenshin Dojo in the city of Osaka. He's 7th Dan IIRC.
Alastair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2002, 08:42 AM   #10
Xanferious
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The Void
Posts: 490
Xanferious is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Xanferious
I would go with Jet Li also
Xanferious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2002, 01:04 PM   #11
Dulan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 354
Dulan is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to Dulan
Steven Seagal is correct. I always get Stallone and Seagal confused.

As for KaV's Jet Li comments - Chow Yun Fat has an equally impressive resume. Why was he not on the list, then?

-D
Dulan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2002, 03:32 PM   #12
KaVir
Legend
 
KaVir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Name: Richard
Home MUD: God Wars II
Posts: 2,052
KaVir will become famous soon enoughKaVir will become famous soon enough
I didn't create the list. I was just refuting the claim that Jet Li was "inconsequential".
KaVir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2002, 07:19 PM   #13
Dulan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 354
Dulan is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to Dulan
Mmm. Point taken, KaVir.

However, he started at 9. The youngest age for beginning acceptance of any serious Art I've seen yet is 14.

Before then, it is generally considered to be too young to fully comprehend the concepts taught. I'd not expect a 9 year old to understand the concept of a honed spirit.

-D
Dulan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2002, 08:59 AM   #14
Shao_Long
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: belfast, UK
Posts: 505
Shao_Long is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Shao_Long Send a message via MSN to Shao_Long
Shao_Long is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2002, 10:02 AM   #15
Kastagaar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Hampshire, UK
Posts: 117
Kastagaar is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to Kastagaar
But perhaps the most interesting thing in this poll is that Shao is going to kill over 40% of the people that voted.

Kas.
Kastagaar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2002, 02:47 PM   #16
Shao_Long
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: belfast, UK
Posts: 505
Shao_Long is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Shao_Long Send a message via MSN to Shao_Long
Shao_Long is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2002, 02:53 PM   #17
KaVir
Legend
 
KaVir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Name: Richard
Home MUD: God Wars II
Posts: 2,052
KaVir will become famous soon enoughKaVir will become famous soon enough
Then you should look around more. I've seen plenty of styles which start training as young as 4 or 5.
KaVir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2002, 03:39 PM   #18
Dulan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 354
Dulan is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to Dulan
I reiterate, KaVir, serious art. Not some Americanized, bastardized kiddie art.

-D
Dulan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2002, 04:00 PM   #19
KaVir
Legend
 
KaVir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Name: Richard
Home MUD: God Wars II
Posts: 2,052
KaVir will become famous soon enoughKaVir will become famous soon enough
The original Shaolin Temple teaches children from the age of 6 onwards - those who show exceptional skill are offered the monk hood at the age of 18.
KaVir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2002, 04:54 PM   #20
Neranz Laverani
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The States
Posts: 116
Neranz Laverani is on a distinguished road
Neranz Laverani is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply




What fighter kicks the most @$$? - Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
OtherSpace: Arc XVII kicks off today! Brody Advertising for Players 0 09-27-2003 07:06 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Style based on a design by Essilor
Copyright Top Mud Sites.com 2022