Tavern of the Blue Hand

Asalyt · 09-26-2003, 07:16 PM

Hey,Anybody know what's up with Dartmud?if its running or not? Because well..I tried connecting but it said,and I quote,(I've always wanted to say that,heh) "Dartmud is not accepting connections from your site" what in the name of hillbilly hot sauce is going on? If you know anything,let me know..and just when I was starting to like it...

Wanderer,
Asalyt

Ogma · 09-26-2003, 07:53 PM

It looks like you are attempting to connect from the same ISP as one of the cheaters we recently sitebanned.

Asalyt · 09-27-2003, 12:09 PM

Seriously??? .....how do I change my ISP? I mean I've never cheated on a MUd before..nor will I ever..so..is the ISP like a terminal specific thing?because nobody used my computer except me...

Realedazed · 09-27-2003, 12:47 PM

ISP = Internet Service Provider, its like AOL and Earthlink. Maybe tried to contact the MUD's Admin or what ever they are called and see if they can set up an account for you. Then all you have to do is log in.

FortFakeName · 09-27-2003, 01:30 PM

the pilfer command doesn't work in dartmud

Eagleon · 09-27-2003, 02:46 PM

I just heard of an ingenious method of allowing players that you know are alright to get past a site ban. Instead of banning the site outright, you don't allow new characters from it, and you delete the cheater's account. Just thought to spread this idea, since I think it's a much better alternative.

JilesDM · 09-27-2003, 05:44 PM

We already do that for certain ISPs.

Re: FortFakeName
It works.

Ogma · 09-27-2003, 07:08 PM

Gee, Eagleon, why didn't we think of making our security that configurable.? Your superior wisdom is amazing!

Oh, wait. We did. And the reason that Asalyt isn't able to log in is because he's been trying to connect with unregistered characters.

Asalyt: Try submitting a registration by going to our website. Then leave me a message here and I can unblock that character.

Asalyt · 09-27-2003, 08:16 PM

Asalyt · 09-27-2003, 08:27 PM

Oh btw, I had a question:
Anybody here play pay-per-plays? If so,are they actually worth me sending a whole money order(I don't believe in credit cards.) just for a month's game time?

Let me know,
Asalyt

Ogma · 09-27-2003, 11:59 PM

Okay, you should be able to connect now.

Eagleon · 09-28-2003, 12:43 AM

Eh, what's up with the snappy comment? I couldn't be sure if you did it or not, nor did I say that I was wise in any way. I specifically said that I heard of this from someone else, and I'd never have thought of it myself. Attitude check anyone?

JilesDM · 09-28-2003, 12:50 AM

Perhaps we were mistaken, Eagleon, but the fact that that kind of flexibility is a basic feature in most (LPMUD) ban enforcement engines that we've seen juxtaposed with your use of the word "ingenious" led us to read your post as being rather sarcastic.

Eagleon · 09-28-2003, 12:57 AM

It was most definately not sarcastic. Sorry if it came off that way, but all I know is that on most MUD's I've seen, site bans are a problem for legitimate characters, and this is not known as a solution.

The Vorpal Tribble · 09-28-2003, 02:13 AM

Eagleon, in my oppinion you didn't come across in any way sarcastic.

Chill fellows.

Molly · 09-28-2003, 03:47 AM

Heh, you guys should try the thing we are implementing. It is called COVENTRY and it completely blocks all output from an annoying player. They can walk around and do stuff as usual, but whatever they say or do, the other players just don't see it, so naturally they ignore them completely.

To themselves everything looks perfectly normal, so they have no idea what is happening. And pretty soon they get so bored with not getting any responses to their trolling, that they give up and find another mud to harrass. No need to waste a ban on their site either, which could block potentially good players out.

It's perfect for a certain kind of Twinks.

Jazuela · 09-28-2003, 10:36 AM

I've played a few pay-to-plays. A couple run by Simutronics, and Inferno, which is run by Ice9.

I think it depends on what you want from your gaming experience. Pay to plays have some features that other games might not have, but you find them exchanging those features for other things that free games do have.

Pay to plays need to cater to the majority, in ordered to make a profit. Free games need to cater to the intent of the creator, without worrying if anyone has a problem with their vision.

If you're into lots of verbs, many of which do very silly things that make little or no IC sense, then I'd go Simu. They have games with lots and lots of people, pretty good room descriptions and some damned interesting areas and spells for magic types. Unfortunately they have no engagement system whatsoever. Roleplay is only optional and not required, and PKing is only allowed if the IMM watching it decides it's allowed. There's no hard-fast rule about it, and someone might get banned from the game for killing someone who attacks them, while another person who goes on a killing spree might be allowed to stay.

Inferno is far superior regarding roleplay and they have an engagement system, and their descriptions are awesome. Unfortunately their player base is small, and I doubt their turning enough profit to stick around for too many more years.

I don't see too many free games that I like, but I've found one that has almost everything I want in my gaming experience, so I'm sticking here.

Asalyt · 09-28-2003, 11:52 AM

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09-26-2003, 07:16 PM	#1
Asalyt Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 35	Hey,Anybody know what's up with Dartmud?if its running or not? Because well..I tried connecting but it said,and I quote,(I've always wanted to say that,heh) "Dartmud is not accepting connections from your site" what in the name of hillbilly hot sauce is going on? If you know anything,let me know..and just when I was starting to like it... Wanderer, Asalyt

09-26-2003, 07:53 PM	#2
Ogma Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Home MUD: DartMUD Posts: 86	It looks like you are attempting to connect from the same ISP as one of the cheaters we recently sitebanned.

09-27-2003, 12:09 PM	#3
Asalyt Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 35	Seriously??? .....how do I change my ISP? I mean I've never cheated on a MUd before..nor will I ever..so..is the ISP like a terminal specific thing?because nobody used my computer except me...

09-27-2003, 12:47 PM	#4
Realedazed Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: AZ Home MUD: Armageddon Home MUD: Harshlands Home MUD: DartMUD Posts: 157	ISP = Internet Service Provider, its like AOL and Earthlink. Maybe tried to contact the MUD's Admin or what ever they are called and see if they can set up an account for you. Then all you have to do is log in.

09-27-2003, 01:30 PM	#5
FortFakeName New Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: my mothers womb.. Posts: 5	the pilfer command doesn't work in dartmud

09-27-2003, 02:46 PM	#6
Eagleon Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 147	I just heard of an ingenious method of allowing players that you know are alright to get past a site ban. Instead of banning the site outright, you don't allow new characters from it, and you delete the cheater's account. Just thought to spread this idea, since I think it's a much better alternative.

09-27-2003, 05:44 PM	#7
JilesDM Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 66	We already do that for certain ISPs. Re: FortFakeName It works.

09-27-2003, 07:08 PM	#8
Ogma Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Home MUD: DartMUD Posts: 86	Gee, Eagleon, why didn't we think of making our security that configurable.? Your superior wisdom is amazing! Oh, wait. We did. And the reason that Asalyt isn't able to log in is because he's been trying to connect with unregistered characters. Asalyt: Try submitting a registration by going to our website. Then leave me a message here and I can unblock that character.

09-27-2003, 08:16 PM	#9
Asalyt Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 35

09-27-2003, 08:27 PM	#10
Asalyt Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 35	Oh btw, I had a question: Anybody here play pay-per-plays? If so,are they actually worth me sending a whole money order(I don't believe in credit cards.) just for a month's game time? Let me know, Asalyt

09-27-2003, 11:59 PM	#11
Ogma Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Home MUD: DartMUD Posts: 86	Okay, you should be able to connect now.

09-28-2003, 12:43 AM	#12
Eagleon Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 147	Eh, what's up with the snappy comment? I couldn't be sure if you did it or not, nor did I say that I was wise in any way. I specifically said that I heard of this from someone else, and I'd never have thought of it myself. Attitude check anyone?

09-28-2003, 12:50 AM	#13
JilesDM Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 66	Perhaps we were mistaken, Eagleon, but the fact that that kind of flexibility is a basic feature in most (LPMUD) ban enforcement engines that we've seen juxtaposed with your use of the word "ingenious" led us to read your post as being rather sarcastic.

09-28-2003, 12:57 AM	#14
Eagleon Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 147	It was most definately not sarcastic. Sorry if it came off that way, but all I know is that on most MUD's I've seen, site bans are a problem for legitimate characters, and this is not known as a solution.

09-28-2003, 02:13 AM	#15
The Vorpal Tribble Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 203	Eagleon, in my oppinion you didn't come across in any way sarcastic. Chill fellows.

09-28-2003, 03:47 AM	#16
Molly Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sweden Home MUD: 4 Dimensions Posts: 574	Heh, you guys should try the thing we are implementing. It is called COVENTRY and it completely blocks all output from an annoying player. They can walk around and do stuff as usual, but whatever they say or do, the other players just don't see it, so naturally they ignore them completely. To themselves everything looks perfectly normal, so they have no idea what is happening. And pretty soon they get so bored with not getting any responses to their trolling, that they give up and find another mud to harrass. No need to waste a ban on their site either, which could block potentially good players out. It's perfect for a certain kind of Twinks.

09-28-2003, 10:36 AM	#17
Jazuela Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New England Posts: 849	I've played a few pay-to-plays. A couple run by Simutronics, and Inferno, which is run by Ice9. I think it depends on what you want from your gaming experience. Pay to plays have some features that other games might not have, but you find them exchanging those features for other things that free games do have. Pay to plays need to cater to the majority, in ordered to make a profit. Free games need to cater to the intent of the creator, without worrying if anyone has a problem with their vision. If you're into lots of verbs, many of which do very silly things that make little or no IC sense, then I'd go Simu. They have games with lots and lots of people, pretty good room descriptions and some damned interesting areas and spells for magic types. Unfortunately they have no engagement system whatsoever. Roleplay is only optional and not required, and PKing is only allowed if the IMM watching it decides it's allowed. There's no hard-fast rule about it, and someone might get banned from the game for killing someone who attacks them, while another person who goes on a killing spree might be allowed to stay. Inferno is far superior regarding roleplay and they have an engagement system, and their descriptions are awesome. Unfortunately their player base is small, and I doubt their turning enough profit to stick around for too many more years. I don't see too many free games that I like, but I've found one that has almost everything I want in my gaming experience, so I'm sticking here.

09-28-2003, 11:52 AM	#18
Asalyt Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 35